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the fully opened cups must sound so damn wide, but the cd1k isolation is already lousy...I need closed cans.
That a K3000, a cd3k with akg k1000 drivers, its a different beast.

Mind you.
post #77 of 385
I personally think that he's lying(or the reporter says nonsense)...but each to his own. tiny changes in the cups make HUGE differences in the FR, so do cables...so it's prolly 50/50.

copper is copper, and I personally think that manufacturers take the stock cable in account when building the drivers...sure, with a lot of patience and different cables you can find one that will change the FR in a good way, but it'd be a major hit & miss. It's prolly about getting the smallest EMI/dielectrics.

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The Sennheiser HD600/580 stock headphone cable is MUCH better sonically than the Sennheiser HD650 stock cable. The HD650 stock headphone cable uses considerably more signal polluting dielectric which degrades the audio signal
recabling w/ some random cable doesn't make sense to me, maybe the HD600 stock cable would be a better option
post #78 of 385
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Originally Posted by sunneebear View Post
...Don't get me wrong, I still love the CD3000 but its one of those 32 ohm headphones that sounds its best with a capable amplifier. It also has that perplexing mid range. Sometimes it's to die for and sometimes it just sounds awkward.
I think studies show that many folks actually prefer a recessed midrange - what's call the "Smiley Face" EQ pattern:

Smiley face curve - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The pattern was so popular, that cheap consumer electronics often used to have that type of coloration built-in. I like it too - not because I don't like midrange, but because it seems to provide more contrast between bass and treble - more a spacious sound. I often use a version of it that emphasizes the alto range more than the soprano (to cut off some harshness), and it sounds good with the CD3000 - the alto range (low treble, upper midrange) is very busy in most music.
post #79 of 385
humm Geoff, you're so happy w/ your recabling...yet you have to resort to a V shaped EQ? was that also the case w/ the stock cable?
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humm Geoff, you're so happy w/ your recabling...yet you have to resort to a V shaped EQ? was that also the case w/ the stock cable?
Yes it was. But I only use with my sony mp3 player, not with my home audiophile system (a vintage yamaha 2000 system).
post #81 of 385
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Could anyone venture an opinion on how the CD3000 compares to the Denon D5000 or a markl-modded one? Some say those headphones are exaggerated, while others swear by it, so I don't know what to think. How about the Ultrasone Edition 9? - there's another phone I haven't heard.
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I used to own the D5000 alongside the CD3000 - the CD3000 made me sell my Denons. The Sonys have a little less bass but a more prominent and engaging midrange and a bigger soundstage. And they have magic.
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I loved my Headphile CD3000s but the lack of low end impact was a little too much for me. I prefer a little more visceral impact when it comes to low frequency extension. The mid-range and soundstaging with the open cups were amazing though, sometimes I regret selling them. Considering the price of the mods however, I was a little dissapointed in the finishing, final sanding was pretty rough so I ended up re-finishing mine before I sold them. Mine was an earlier pair though (Converted from the HP3000s reviewed in the 6moons review) so I'd assume his finishing has improved since then.
post #84 of 385
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I loved my Headphile CD3000s but the lack of low end impact was a little too much for me. I prefer a little more visceral impact when it comes to low frequency extension. The mid-range and soundstaging with the open cups were amazing though, sometimes I regret selling them. Considering the price of the mods however, I was a little dissapointed in the finishing, final sanding was pretty rough so I ended up re-finishing mine before I sold them. Mine was an earlier pair though (Converted from the HP3000s reviewed in the 6moons review) so I'd assume his finishing has improved since then.
Selling phones like these is a problem if you regret it later.
They do not crop up for sale that often,and as to the bass there is no shortage on the closed woody's.
Bass is much tighter than the stock which suffer from boomy bass on some recordings.
I have never listened to open CD3000's and have been tempted to get a headphile "vixen" done on my stock pair.but its not cheap,you lose your phones and fork out another$500 for something you have no idea what it will sound like.
post #85 of 385
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I used to own the D5000 alongside the CD3000 - the CD3000 made me sell my Denons. The Sonys have a little less bass but a more prominent and engaging midrange and a bigger soundstage. And they have magic.
I have to agree they are magic.
If you analyse the sound by splitting it into sections its all wrong,but when it all comes together they do have that magic sound quality.

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and as to the bass there is no shortage on the closed woody's.
Bass is much tighter than the stock which suffer from boomy bass on some recordings.
Is there any dampening material on the inside of the wood cups? I would think there needs to be, in order to cut down on reflections that would muddy up the bass. As temp experiment, I put tape on the inside of mine, and it tightened up everything. But the amount of bass was never a problem for me in the stock headphone, and the silver cable increased the visceral impact even more.
post #87 of 385
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I have to agree they are magic.
If you analyse the sound by splitting it into sections its all wrong,but when it all comes together they do have that magic sound quality.
Yup, and the cable upgrade definitely increased that magic quality. The whole is greater than the sum of the parts. Amazingly, I'm still hearing improvements every day with my upgrade. If the soundstage gets any bigger, it will poke outside the earcups!
post #88 of 385
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If the soundstage gets any bigger, it will poke outside the earcups!
hah, I always feel like this in movies

PS: funny to see this Japanese guy who got all the spare parts in 2006 and completely serviced his cd3k: http://translate.google.com/translat...hl=en&ie=UTF-8
post #89 of 385
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Originally Posted by ford2 View Post
Selling phones like these is a problem if you regret it later.
They do not crop up for sale that often,and as to the bass there is no shortage on the closed woody's.
Bass is much tighter than the stock which suffer from boomy bass on some recordings.
I have never listened to open CD3000's and have been tempted to get a headphile "vixen" done on my stock pair.but its not cheap,you lose your phones and fork out another$500 for something you have no idea what it will sound like.
Yeah I found no problems with boomy bass. The low frequency extension that was present, was tight and controlled however with the open cups, there just wasn't enough of it for me. If I had been in the place where I could have afforded to keep 3 or 4 cans, it definitely would have remained in my stable however, at the time, my student's salary was getting to be very meager and my gf quite expensive so something had to go.
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Originally Posted by leeperry View Post
hah, I always feel like in movies

PS: funny to see this Japanese guy who got all the spare parts in 2006 and completely serviced his cd3k: Google Translate
Nothing wrong with building a new pair of phone's.But what is interesting is this: Photo upper left, right: old and new driver unit (left: the new right: the former) seems to be a material change. 磁石の強さも違う(新しい方が強い)。 Also different from the strength of the magnet (the more compelling new).

Makes you wonder if all CD3000's had the same driver's,it appear's that his new one's were not the same as the old one's
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