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post #1 of 17
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Hey Guys,

I need a wireless router for providing general internet access to my family (laptops surfing the web, streaming youtube, email, and a couple iPhones and iPod Touches, as well as a PSP and PS3.).

I have Charter 5Mbps cable service (modem is a Motorola Surfboard) and right now have a direct modem ethernet connection to my main PC. I live in a 2-story ~2,000 sq ft house, and my room (where the router will be) is upstairs. Looking to buy a wifi router (don't have experience, only used wired), for under $100. Less is better, of course. I'd like to be able to print from all computers, and also would like to have a 1TB HD attached for general network storage.

So far, I've done some research and come up with a few choices:

D-Link DIR-655 ($95)

LINKSYS WRT54GL ($45)

LINKSYS WRT54G2
($45)

Belkin N+ ($70)


Anyone can give me advice which one's the best for me? I did hear that the Linksys WRT54GL could be installed with 3rd-party firmware, although it's only a g router, not N.

Thanks!
post #2 of 17
Out of those the WRT54G2 is the only model I have used and I would recommend it. It, like the WRT54GL, can be flashed with open source DD-Wrt firmware. If you plan on using DD-Wrt down the road the WRT54GL can handle more fully featured versions since it has double the flash memory.

I would strongly recommend against buying a more expensive model for USB as these devices almost universally suffer from terrible USB file performance. Instead, consider plugging the printer and hard drive into an always-on machine.
post #3 of 17
DD-wrt is great. It has a lot of features that factory firmware does not have. Flashing a belkin is horrible. It took me 3 hours and many many tries to flash it. Stick with Linksys or Buffalo if you want to flash your router.
post #4 of 17
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So the WRT54GL is actually better than the WRT54G2? I thought they were the same, except for cosmetics (the G2 looks sleeker).

Do I need to flash the router? I mean, what do I get from the 3rd-party firmware like dd-wrt? Do I get better performance? What else? I really don't need a bunch of features I'm not going to use...

And the D-Link is N (~600 mbps), but the Linksys are only G routers (54mbps)
That's over 10x the throughput...will the linksys be a better choice still?

On the network, I will have 3 computers, a PS3, a PSP, and 2 iPhones/iPod Touch, as well as some music streaming (Logitech Squeezebox) later on. Which router will be able to take all this traffic?


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Originally Posted by MCC View Post
I would strongly recommend against buying a more expensive model for USB as these devices almost universally suffer from terrible USB file performance. Instead, consider plugging the printer and hard drive into an always-on machine.
If I plug the printer/HD into an always on machine, will all computers on the network be able to access it?
post #5 of 17
Thread Starter 
lol...also need a decent mic and webcam for skype...
post #6 of 17
If you are a Mac guy, I highly recommend the airport express and the time capsule. If you aren't a mac guy, YMMV, as I haven't tried to set one up on a PC. I have used the Linksys WRT54G? I think? It was a pain for me to set up, but worked relatively well once set up. The apple stuff is way easier for me, and the wireless reception is far superior in my set-up.
post #7 of 17
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Sorry - Windows 7 here!
post #8 of 17
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SmallNetBuilder - Small Network Help - Router Performance Comparison Charts - WAN to LAN Throughput

If you look at these charts, the D-Link DIR-955 blows past the Linksys, like 50 vs 500 mbps....whats so good about the linksys, then?
post #9 of 17
I've had a few routers, including netgear and linksys, but my favorite has been my D-Link router. It's been the most reliable for me, with the Linksys being the worst (though it seems many people have great experiences with them).

Just my opinion. I would go for the d-link.
post #10 of 17
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Originally Posted by DeusEx View Post
SmallNetBuilder - Small Network Help - Router Performance Comparison Charts - WAN to LAN Throughput

If you look at these charts, the D-Link DIR-955 blows past the Linksys, like 50 vs 500 mbps....whats so good about the linksys, then?
Based on that chart, it is not as wide as you said - but there still is a significant difference in download throughput performance between the D-Link Xtreme N DIR-655 and both of the Linksys G routers. The newer hardware revisions of the D-Link can sustain over 250 Mbps WAN-to-LAN throughput, versus around 72 Mbps for the Linksys WRT54G2 and 53 Mbps for the WRT54GL (though the WRT54GL is admittedly an older design). This speed matters only if you are using the wired connection directly between two computers with no Internet connection at all whatsoever. Many of the N routers have routing speeds in excess of 100 Mbps but do not have Gigabit Ethernet capability (the wired connection on such routers is limited to 100 Mbps).

If you are using the wireless connection, then of course the actual throughput will usually be much slower than wired (among the exceptions are those N routers whose wireless routing performance exceeds the capability of their 10/100 Ethernet ports).

And of course, if a modem for Internet connection to an ISP is connected to the router's WAN port, the maximum throughput between the Internet and your computer will be limited by the Internet connection.

And not all routers do superbly in all areas. Sometimes, a given router with outstanding wired performance will deliver mediocre or poor wireless performance compared to others of the same wired and wireless throughput rating.

And based on total simultaneous throughput results, the D-Link DIR-655 Xtreme N router delivers nearly six times the performance of the Linksys WRT54G2 G router at roughly double the price. To me, the DIR-655 is the better value of the two, especially since it includes Gigabit Ethernet (all G routers to date have only 10/100 Ethernet). By contrast, if your computer has only a 10/100 Ethernet port, then your wired throughput speed will be limited by the 10/100 port even if your router has Gigabit capability.
post #11 of 17
The WRT54GL can have the antennas swapped, while I don't think you can with the G2. Wireless N is useful for file sharing on your network and streaming video across it and the like. If you just want to access the internet, it's greater range may still be of use to you. Do all of your computers have wireless N cards?
post #12 of 17
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I have this Gigabyte motherboard: Believe it has 1 gigabit port.
Newegg.com - GIGABYTE GA-EX58-UD4P LGA 1366 Intel X58 ATX Intel Motherboard - Intel Motherboards

Like I was saying, what benefits do I get out of the Linksys's 3rd-party firmware? I like the D-Link's speed, but I've been recommended the Linksys many times...what does the upgraded firmware like dd-wrt or tomato actually give me? A bunch of features I'll never use? Or stuff that's actually useful...this is only a small home network...

Both laptops have G cards, but I'll be getting one with an N card soon.

Again, I have 5 mbps cable service.


Also, for some reason, the DIR-655 operates at 2.4GHz instead of 5Ghz?? I thought all N routers were on 5GHz..


Also, for ~$30 more, is the DIR-685 a good router? And what's the point of dual-band? I mean, 2.4 and 5 simultaneous...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16833127258

Looking to buy in an hour!
post #13 of 17
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Also, for some reason, the DIR-655 operates at 2.4GHz instead of 5Ghz?? I thought all N routers were on 5GHz..
Many consumer N routers operate only on the 2.4GHz band. All of the N routers that I've seen which have a 5GHz operation also have a 2.4GHz mode (and thus are "dual-band" N routers). The 5GHz mode is used when less interference is desired (but at the expense of a shorter usable range), while the 2.4GHz band has a longer effective range (but may increase the risk of interference from or with other wireless devices).
post #14 of 17
The 3rd party firmwares are potentially much more stable than stock. I hear the G2 is a pretty good in stock form though. I have a 54GS that needs to be hard reset once or twice year. I've also seen a router that simply wouldn't handle any torrent traffic. In comparison, I had a GL with DD-WRT wirelessly bridging a signal from almost 100 yards away (with high gain antennas and the Tx power increased). It never hiccuped under a heavy load in an attic in Texas in the summer. One other thing you ought to be aware of is that the N devices tend to lose some of their speed when you connect a G device as well. All of them should be fine for just sharing internet in a 2k square ft. house, both speed and range wise. I would get N if you want to do any kind of file sharing or media streaming (particularly HD video) on your network though.
post #15 of 17
Thread Starter 
Probably just some music streaming, not much HD video streaming. Mostly general web surfing, youtube, email. (I have a WD HD media player that i actually physically connect the HD to my PC to sync with, since I rip my Blu-ray discs onto the HD, much too large to stream (10-20GB)..

So it'll be a mixture of G and N laptops and misc. gadgets like an iPod Touch, PSP, PS3, and maybe several smaller music devices.

I'll be doing moderate torrenting, but only off my main desktop PC (wired connection, modem and router will be right next to the desktop).

The best way to add a printer or all-access storage to the network is just simply connecting it to my desktop? Those USB ports on the newer routers won't cut it, right?
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