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post #61 of 203
Hey, Eric, have you received the velour pads for the 448s yet? If so, does it affect the sound?
post #62 of 203
thanks Eric, but i already read that(and tried) in one of your posts. I'm not a native English speaker so i'll ask you for some details. When you say "reach under the side of the earpad" you mean with a screwdriver? Because it is a small "crack". I already did that but didn't had the heart to push too much. The plastic ring loosened up(a lot) and it looks like something else holds the earpad. So i guess i'm doing it wrong...
post #63 of 203
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Originally Posted by dosed View Post
thanks Eric, but i already read that(and tried) in one of your posts. I'm not a native English speaker so i'll ask you for some details. When you say "reach under the side of the earpad" you mean with a screwdriver? Because it is a small "crack". I already did that but didn't had the heart to push too much. The plastic ring loosened up(a lot) and it looks like something else holds the earpad. So i guess i'm doing it wrong...
Actually I meant with your hand. Just give one side underneath the earpad a tug being careful not to tear the earpad (It takes some force though). There are little plastic tabs that hold the earpad's plastic ring (underneath the pad, not around it) in. You have to slightly bend the earpad upward and inward to make one side of the earpad release from the tabs and then you should be able to slide the rest of the earpad out of the tabs in the opposite direction.
post #64 of 203
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Originally Posted by Marximus View Post
Hey, Eric, have you received the velour pads for the 448s yet? If so, does it affect the sound?
They make the sound a bit airier and make the bass a bit more subdued, but the bass is more coherent in that the attack is not separated from the rest of the bass note, without the echo that occurs in the pleather pads. I am using the velour pads right now, so that probably tells you which I prefer though I still wish the bass was a bit more full and cleaner than it is with either the velour or pleather pads.
post #65 of 203
of course i was doing it wrong the first time :P . It's harder to put them back in then it was to get them out.
Looks like i can't do anything to cover them with leather................ I'll have to find a Sennheiser distributor around here.
Thank you,
post #66 of 203
Cool. Thanks. I might add those to my (ideally short) list.
post #67 of 203
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Originally Posted by rhfactor1 View Post
Hope they are a little more neutral sounding than my HD485's. The bass just overpowers the rest of the frequencies. Actually like the SQ of my son's HD497's better. Hopefully we can get some listening impressions soon. Happy Listening.
I'm getting just that with my 'HD465' (Look identical to your albeit the colour), they do get rid of the edgy headphone output, putting a warm cuddly valve type presentation in it's place, any dull recording is not good.They do sound better loud but do need taiming in the low end department.
post #68 of 203
Just like to say hi and after reading this thread i picked up some 448s last month.

At first i was a bit underwhelmed as i quite like the sound of my brothers Audio Technica M50s. But after giving it a good i dunno maybe 70-80hrs usage the base has cleared up and the headphone sounds a lot less murky and muffled. I do like how its managed the treble (to an extent) but i find the vocals and mids sound flatter and overpowered slightly by the base ). With a teeny bit of eq fiddling dropping the base slightly i can get a very nice balance between the base and...well everything else lol.

I think i have these problems as i have always had base lacking headphones in order HD555, Shure E2c and UE5Pro so these may just be a shock to the system.

Unfortunately i still prefer the sound of the ATH-M50s but the sound can be fatiguing after a while and it clamps my head a bit too close to the jaw

Woo first post... although lurking was fun.
post #69 of 203

Pleased with my 448s

Mine finally arrived from Amazon this week (Amazon dropped the ball for the first time in my experience by listing the item as "in stock" but then apparently having trouble finding a pair to ship)...that aside, I'm really enjoying my 448s. I have no doubt that there are many headphones that are just as good if not better in the same price range, but these sound great and are VERY comfortable. They are also light, though solid in feel. There's enough sound isolation to keep me from hearing hallway conversations...but I still hear the phone ring.

They handle symphonies (Beethoven, Saint-Saens) well (the organ on the Saint-Saens is gorgeous) but really excel with well-recorded chamber music or quartets. That said, listening to Zeppelin's Houses of the Holy was a real pleasure. The bad news is that I'm now aware of varying recording qualities and am suddenly paying attention to format and sampling. Bottom line: well done, Sennheiser.
post #70 of 203
I got mine earlier this week as well, I also ordered a Nuforce uDac to power them.

As a former owner of numerous high-end amps and a Pair of HD600's, I can tell you that the combo is good, but not wonderful. I think its a solid "for the money" buy. My other headphones, a pair of wildly expensive Audio Technica's are better overall but not enough to rationally justify the price difference.

I think that with better amplification these headphones might improve more. The real issue I have with them is that while detailed they lack transient response and therefore sound somewhat uninvolving.
post #71 of 203
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I think that with better amplification these headphones might improve more. The real issue I have with them is that while detailed they lack transient response and therefore sound somewhat uninvolving.
I agree with that, I just didn't know how to put it into words. When i do use them i end up pumping up the treble quite a bit... I guess to make them seem more alive(?).

Its so much easier to read peoples reviews and understand to then actually try and write or describe the sound of headphones .
post #72 of 203
I read all the posts here about the HD 448, and cannot wait to receive mine soon! I will be pairing it with a Sony X Series amped with a T3. It will be my first closed sennheiser headphone other than the px200(which I don't even count because I think they are awful). I own the HD595, px100, and IE8's, and find that the HD595 and px100's leak out too much sound and don't isolate very well, though they sound amazing. I am hoping that the sound on the HD 448 will not leak out too much, while still keeping that same sound quality. Eric has done a great job reviewing the HD 448, and I hope these issues will be resolved for me. I can't wait til they arrive!
post #73 of 203
So, any ideas on how to mod the HD448? I'm just about ready to void my waranty.
A bit more bass would be very welcome without having to buy the HD438, which look horrible imo.
post #74 of 203
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So, any ideas on how to mod the HD448? I'm just about ready to void my waranty.
A bit more bass would be very welcome without having to buy the HD438, which look horrible imo.
zmd, I'm with you, just don't like the looks of the 438s. I'm just about ready to pull the trigger on the 448s. In my research it seems the 448s out perform the other 4x8 series in highs, mids and soundstage not to mention styling
I'm sure someone will come up with a bass mod eventually if need be, won't know until I get them and burn them in before rendering my opinion. My thinking is the HD448s have to sound better and be more efficient then my HD-25(Concorde Edition), "efficient" meaning volume level being used with my 5th gen vid iPod & Laptop.


Update:Ordered HD448s, with any luck I'll have them by Friday and let them burn in over the weekend.
post #75 of 203
So my HD448s arrived a few days ago, and I am very impressed with them. Like Eric, I enjoy the HD448s more than the HD595s, and even use them outside rather than my IE8s, which has too much of a bass impact for me. However, the HD448s require an amp to truly shine. My Sony X1051 alone cannot provide enough power for them. I am using the Sony X1051 with an iBasso T3 amp, which really helps by making the low end sound much fuller. The forwards and highs on these cans are truly impressive. Also, the pleather pads are quite comfortable and fit around my ears perfectly. I am able to listen to them without any discomfort or fatigue, because these truly have a balanced sound, with a huge emphasis in its highs and mids. I highly recommend these, and it's great seeing these headphones as part of headphone.com's top 10!
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