Beyerdynamic to launch new top headphone at IFA -- called T1 - Page 18

So sorry guys!
I am much too tired to answer all of your questions right now. It's 1am here and I just got home.
I will do that as soon as I feel like having enough time.

Just a quick addition to the first impression. I went ahead and took my '03 DT880s with me (which I thing are better then the Edition models [including the Pros, which are basically Editions with higher clamping force - try it, that's really IT]) for an A/B comparison. What should I say...completely different beasts.
Where do I start...
Tonality. The T1 sounds more like a DT770 Edition with 600 Ohms than like a DT880. Really! Less warm, more treble presence and more bass volume. I own a DT770 600 so I know the differences between the two.
On the other hand it resolves a LOT better. And when comparing the soundstages in A/B the T1 wins easily. It's a different presentation that I seem not to be able to process as well but everything seems to be much further away. The DT880s were more intimate and the presentation was much more "in the head". But the T1's stage is also narrower at the same time which I also wrote in my first impression. But as I didn't have a direct comparison I wasn't able to realize that in deed everything plays much further away.

I wanted to try the T1 on my MP3-Player but it was not loud enough. It isn't the strongest player out there and I additionally decrease the volume of my MP3s to match the replaygain standard (well most of them had to be decreased to match 89dB in the average).
So it wasn't the fault of the T1. I know that I can power my DT880 from this player to a satisfying level when being in a silent environment. And on the A1 I had to crank up the volume a LOT higher when switching from T1 to the DT880s!
So it in deed IS a lot more efficient, despite it's 600 Ohms.

Maybe I will take my DT770 600s with me today for a comparison.
I can't promise, though. I feel like I already annoyed the beyer staff a lot more than I should have.

And once again I wanna stress that it is really loud there in the hall. Take everything with a grain of salt and listen to it yourself. I myself already ordered a press example.
It's a good thing I don't have to buy all the stuff that I want to hear! :P

m00h

Given that your reports here have spread more information farther than they themselves are, Beyer should be giving you a commission for any T1 sold outside of Berlin.

Thank you for the followup.
Now I see the sound signature clearer.

I've always found the presentation of certain beyer phones, especially the 770s to feel far away. It's interesting that you liken the T1 to the 770s. Despite the 770s sloppy bass, coupled with their cold and dark presentation, they resolve extremely well and are imho fantastic headphones for classical music (very bad for rock and music that emphasizes bass). The thought if a better resolving 770 is very appealing to me. One thing I love about the 770s is its nonintrusive nature. If the T1's retains its character while improving it, I'm very excited. Thank you for the impressions.

I hope they don't sound like the DT770/250 ohm. They are among my least favorite beyerdynamic headphones.

I hope they sound like an improved DT931

If they sound more like the DT770 I'll probably pass. I was hoping for a much more refined DT880/600. I'll want to hear lots of impressions from people who try them out on a wide range of amps I'm familiar with before taking the plunge.

Thanks Mooh for the initial impressions.

So, Beyer seems to be neglecting the strengths of the DT48/480/100/150?? If it's just a jumbled 770/880/990 I'll just get the HD800 instead..

& shouldn't the tonality be more akin to the DT48/880..

The T1 sounds like the DT770?

Argh. Good thing I didn't order one; I've never cared for the DT770's sound signature. I was hoping for a refinement of one of their good headphones.

Oh well. Maybe AKG will roll out something good at CES.

I have a hunch these will be good sounding headphones

thats weird. i think the dt880 pro is far superior to the dt770/80. maybe i got a weird pair. my dt880's have sounds farther away than the he90 or o2! seriously, i am not kidding. i also had to put the stock cable back on them because the mogami cable ruined this. i think the dt770/80 is just a boom box. no imaging to be had just bass. with my dt880 sometimes i think i left the loudspeakers on! i would like to see more of this in the t1. is this what we get?

m00h, it sounds like when you describe them you are not that impressed. then you close by ordering them(even though they are a press example). very simply, do you love them or not?

i would not be paying this price for something that had any similarities to the dt770.

music_man

May I highlight this as people seem to think..."oh sounds like the DT770 250 ohm...I'll pass".

As people that have owned both a 600 ohm and 250ohm version of the same model, both sound completely different.

It is wrong to apply opinions of 250ohm Beyerdynamic models to the 600ohm models.
Beyerdynamic's mega confusing model naming doesn't help.

m00h was refering to the DT770/600 ohm model, which FWIR is a very different beast than the DT770/pro 80.

i apologize. i did not know that. since i like the dt880 pro so much maybe i need a dt880 600 ohm.....or the t1. i really hope the t1 wows me even more than the dt880 pro. as if it were to have even bigger soundstage and even more articulation and resolution. or is it just going in a completely different direction?

i myself can really not believe i am now listening exclusively to the dt880 pro. i honestly doubt it is that good. it is just the sound that i absolutely prefer. finally. i seriously hope the t1 or some other headphone refines what i like about the dt880 pro even further.

music_man

i've never read a bad thing about the DT931. i nearly pulled the trigger on a pair a few years ago. they've been on my radar since buying the dt990/600, along with the dt880/600. can you hook me up with a pair .

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