Hiya, I would say that the 5800,with or without an amp, sounds better than an iPod without an amp.
I reckon that the headphone out of the iPod sounds so bad that I am amazed that most people seem happy with it.
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The iPod with an amp and LOD, however, sounds far better than the 5800 IME.
By the way, do you know that if you choose the line out option on the 5800, rather than headphones, the volume is much greater? Some would say better SQ too but I reckon that is down to increased volume... HTH.
