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Wanna audition the Fuze LOD?

post #1 of 192
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First of, I am not selling Fuze LOD - just in case you wonder. Don't PM or email me about it, I'll just say 'no'. Try building one yourself and embrace the DIY spirit. You can find a copy of the DIY guide in the DIY forum and Anythingbutipod.com's Sansa Fuze sub-forum for accessories.

Now, if you are interested in audition the Fuze LOD, just reply with interest and you're name will be put on the list down below. However, you must meet two requirements and agree on two conditions.

Requirements:
1) Join the forum for > 3 months and have a post count of > 44.99 .
2) Own a Sansa Fuze and an amp (for obvious reason).

You must agree to:
1) Write an honest impression after the audition.
2) Post the LOD to the person next in the list via registered mail on your own expense.

Also, you should keep the audition time to with in a week so others don't have to wait for too long. This means if you received the LOD on Tuesday, you should send it out by next Wednesday. If you have the LOD in your possession but can't finish the audition in time, please update you status in this thread. It will be a good practice to contact the next person in line earlier for name and address.

In regard to the audition, please (for the least) compare the sound b/w line-out and phone-out in amplified condition. You can do extra audition if you like / have the time. I am interested only in honest opinion on whether you hear or don't hear any difference (and the reason, if applied). Please also list down the detail of your gears and music (bitrate as such) for audition. I don't like to limit the choice of your gears, but you should know that better amp, headphones and music bitrate allow for better differentiation (or realizing the lack of it). Please be sure the your Fuze is on latest firmware, or / and you should need to turn the volume (both LO and PO) to maximum when amping. I am not sure whether RockBox supports LO or not, so you'll need to figure it out if you already Rockbox'ed your Fuze.



Here is what you'll be receiving in the package: One mini-to-mini interconnecting cable (in case you don't have one in handy), one cap-less LOD (for amp that already has coupling cap in the signal path, such as a CMOY), and one cap'ed LOD (for amp that lacks coupling cap, use this LOD if you are not sure). The LOD are built with Ridax connector, Belden 1804A cable and Neutrik gold plated mini jack. The caps are BlackGate NX Hi-Q 22uF, 6.3V (pretty much unburn-in, If I may add).

One last thing: Do spend some quality time on listening and comparing before making up your own mind. Thanks for your time.

Audition List
(smiley signifies where the LOD is)

  1. Drpepper
  2. RAQemUP
  3. Woody469
  4. jvlgato
  5. jrazmar
  6. kunalraiker
  7. epithetless
  8. Badsam
  9. shigzeo
  10. back to me then.

There is no limit on the number of people that can be in the list, but the audition can't run forever - so I'll take 10 people first, then continue if everything goes well. First post first served.

Impression by: tstarn06, Drpepper, RAQemUP, jvlgato, Woody469 and kunalraiker.

The audition is over.

Thanks!!!


Edited by ClieOS - 8/28/10 at 7:07am
post #2 of 192
Great idea, i'd love to try it out, but I guess i'll see if i can build one.
post #3 of 192
ClieOS, do you have a link to impressions of LOD versus headphone out? Or can you offer your own?

I'm an avid fan of the Clip, and I'm looking to purchase a new DAP, so far it's the Zune HD, but if it doesn't offer any audible improvements over the clip (reports that it shares the same DAC as previous Zunes), I might move on to the Fuse
post #4 of 192
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Originally Posted by BigTony View Post
Great idea, i'd love to try it out, but I guess i'll see if i can build one.
If you have a Fuze or planning to get one soon, you can join the audition and I'll send the LOD to you. Then you can decide if there is a need to build one for your own Fuze.

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Originally Posted by Xan7hos View Post
ClieOS, do you have a link to impressions of LOD versus headphone out? Or can you offer your own?

I'm an avid fan of the Clip, and I'm looking to purchase a new DAP, so far it's the Zune HD, but if it doesn't offer any audible improvements over the clip (reports that it shares the same DAC as previous Zunes), I might move on to the Fuse
Long story short, I deleted all my impression (and actually the original DIY guide) regarding LOD due to certain annoyance that I'll rather not go into now. From what I gather (haven't heard Clip myself), Fuze PO should sound pretty much the same as Clip due to the same SoC - as for whether Fuze LO will sound the same as PO, this audition is a chance to try it out yourself, or you can wait for the impression from other who join the audition. Hopefully we will see a few in next few days. However, since the LOD for audition is a spare that I am not using at the moment, I can send it out for audition at any time as long as any of you are interested in trying out.

If you are interesting in reading the DIY guide (revived by another member), here it is. It still contains the link to the half deleted old thread plus bits and pieces of useful info.
post #5 of 192

LOD Audition

Hi ClieOS
I have been itching for such an opportunity! I have 2 Fuzes and I would really like to see if it can make a difference.
post #6 of 192
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Originally Posted by Drpepper View Post
Hi ClieOS
I have been itching for such an opportunity! I have 2 Fuzes and I would really like to see if it can make a difference.
You're on. Just PM me you name and address and I'll send the LOD out in a day or two.
post #7 of 192
PM sent. Thanks!
post #8 of 192
Any RCA version?
post #9 of 192
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Originally Posted by LingLing1337 View Post
Any RCA version?
I built those for my portable amp, so no RCA. You can always use a mini-to-RCA cable if you want.

[EDIT] Drpepper, the LOD is on its way to you. ETA is one week (assuming everything goes well with the postal service).
post #10 of 192
cool idea!
but seems I would pay extra hours on head-fi though, if I want to get one
post #11 of 192
Please add me to the list.
post #12 of 192
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Originally Posted by Woody469 View Post
Please add me to the list.
Added.
post #13 of 192
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So, anyone else want to join?
post #14 of 192
Received the LOD Thursday and have been testing it with a few different configurations. Interesting results, with a review to come!
post #15 of 192
Okay, I don't need to borrow the Fuze LOD, since I already own one (DIY custom LOD, not the dock), and here's my take. I posted this on another thread about the Fuze, so it's cut and pasted. It is limited to one pair of phones, one portable amp, and a very high-end mini-to-mini cable I happen to own. So here goes...

To further get into this Fuze LOD issue, today I just did an extensive listening session with this setup. Fuze>custom LOD>high end mini to mini cable>Amp3 out to Grado SR-80 (best synergy with Amp3 in my collection). All I can say is, as I already stated, the difference between the HP out, both direct with the Grados and using just the HP out with just the cable to the Amp3 (bypassing the LOD) is like night and day. The air, detail, crisp highs and improved soundstage are evident when using the LOD, but NOT when using the HP out. I will say the Amp3 does improve the sound using HP out, but not on the same level of detail, and clean, open sound that emanated from the Grados. There is no comparison.

I listened to various genres, mostly the type of music I like, (J. Taylor, Norah Jones, Brubeck, Bromberg, etc.) and some indie rock, as well as a little classical (Yo-Yo Ma, some well-recorded Mozart, Beethoven) and I must say, this experience has me down as a true Fuze LOD convert. I had listened before, with the UM3X and the C710s, which both hiss a little with the Amp3. No such issues with the Grados, which is why I selected them for this listening test.

Frankly, I don't really care what any charts/graphs say, the Fuze LOD is not hype to my ears, not after that hour-long concentrated listening session. I will say that the combo is not as impressive with poorly recorded/mastered tracks, but that should come as no shock. To me, the LOD was worth every penny of the investment. Having said that, I repeat that I use the Fuze mainly with the UM3X or C710s via HP out as an on the go player, previously preferring the simplicity of the Amp3 (as player) for at home listening (after selling the Minibox and the T4, since the Amp3 is both a player and a quality portable HP amp). But now, I may switch over to the Fuze/LOD/Amp3 for home listening because at this point, the Fuze GUI is so much easier on the eyes and offers a more expanded overall track playlist (24GB with 16GB micro SDHC card, vs. 12GB with the Amp3, 4GB with 8GB card).

Okay, so that's my take. Admittedly, I am not testing the one going around on loan, but it is a Fuze LOD built in much the same manner as the one circulating.

I am sure others will have differing views, but this is what I heard.
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