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Which of these Miles Davis CDs to get?

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I've seen a couple of CD albums that have quite a lot of overlap, so don't really want both. Which do you think is the better selection and why?

Miles Away (2008) comprises:
'Round About Midnight
Relaxin'
Miles Ahead
Cookin'
Steamin'

The other album is a compilation of Relaxin', Workin' and Steamin'.

Cheers.
post #2 of 17
Well, Miles Away is clearly a broader survey of Davis' early career. It includes work from his Prestige and Columbia Records' releases. Also, in contrast to the "other album", which is all small group stuff from Prestige, Miles Away also contains several tracks from Miles Ahead, an orchestral jazz session. Looks like there's a bit more variety. Hope this helps…
post #3 of 17
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Originally Posted by anoobis View Post
I've seen a couple of CD albums that have quite a lot of overlap, so don't really want both. Which do you think is the better selection and why?

Miles Away (2008) comprises:
'Round About Midnight
Relaxin'
Miles Ahead
Cookin'
Steamin'

The other album is a compilation of Relaxin', Workin' and Steamin'.

Cheers.
I would get these CDs first....I mean Miles released like 50 albums, and all of them have merit, more than 30 are amazing.....

so I would collect them is this order....

1. Kind Of Blue (this is obviously his most championed work.....I assume you may already own this)
2. Nefertiti (this is featuring an entirely different set of players from Kind of Blue.....this is known as Miles' second Quintet, and in my opinion, this was his greatest band........it's debatable which album was the best which they released, Nefertiti has always been my favorite)
3. Relaxin' (Miles' Prestige series is the most consistent group of albums he ever cut....Relaxin' is probably my favorite, but any of the group is worthy of getting)
4. Sketches of Spain (Miles cut 3 albums with Gil Evans arranging orchestral scores for the music........all three are superb, I think Sketches of Spain has the highest reputation)
5. In A Silent Way (This is Miles creating a new genre which would become known as fusion........this album has a higher reputation in the jazz community than Bitches Brew, which is more well known to the general public)
6. The Complete Birth Of The Cool (This is was Miles first dates as band leader and it is essential to the history of music as it is largely considered to be some of the first recordings where Bop harmonic sophistication was mixed with big band arrangement from the swing period....this style would become known as Cool Jazz.....Lenny Tristano was also a key figure in the development of this music)
7. Round About Midnight (This is Miles' first date for Columbia records and it is using the same band from the Prestige sessions, it is a wonderful hard bop date.)
8. Miles Smiles (Miles never approached free jazz the way Ornette Coleman or John Coltrane did, but this is very close to it...it's bop material with a tremendous sense of freedom in the improvisation. A lot of people consider this to be his finest record actually. This is also the Second Quintet.
9. Bitches Brew (This is a monumental record which actually uses the studio as an instrument in the same way that rock bands use the studio...this was uncommon for jazz at the time. I feel this record was as big an influence on subsequent rock acts as it was for jazz....Radiohead cited this album as a major influence during the making of OK Computer)
10. Milestones (This is a transitional record and sounds somewhat in style between Round About Midnight and Kind Of Blue.......this is where Miles begins experimenting with modal compositions. It doesn't carry the reverrence of Kind Of Blue, but I feel it is great in its own way)

After these 10 purchases, you will have a sense of what Miles' is about and know where to go from there......

P.S. I don't feel you should explore compilations of Miles, whichever albums interest you the most from the list you should go for, but definitely make your first purchase Kind Of Blue because it is centerpiece in away of his whole career
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post #4 of 17
Out of those I prefer Miles Ahead. It's a cool "orchestral" jazz album. Same with Round About Midnight as well, I think.. But I don't have that one
post #5 of 17
I completely agree with DavidMahler - no point getting the compilations since if you like Miles you will end up getting the albums. Kind of Blue is a great place to start and I would add Soundtrack to Jack Johnson to the list of should get CDs if you like fusion or rock - it is less famous than Bitches Brew but I also find it easier to like (i.e. more accessible).
post #6 of 17
I also agree with DavidMahler. Everything he listed is an essential Miles album. Get all the sony/columbia/legacy editions if possible EXCEPT for Kind of Blue. For KoB get the new 2CD legacy edition or the Japan SACD or the UK Hybrid SACD. For the Prestige years, get the original OJC releases.
post #7 of 17
Thread Starter 
Thanks for all the replies.

As it happens, I already have Kind Of Blue and was going to get Bitches Brew anyway.

I'm assuming the advice to avoid compilations is for two reasons: i) cost; ii) missing tracks from the albums. In this case, Miles Away is a bargain and, as far as I can make out, all of the album tracks appear. Please correct me if I'm wrong here.

Given two of the albums in Miles Away are on DavidMahler's list (great precis BTW, thanks), it seems like the better choice. I also think I'll enjoy Miles Ahead from the replies here.

I was always going to lose one of the Prestige sessions between these two and I think Miles Away is the better trade-off.

The only reason I can think of for not going for it is if the mastering is sub-par. Any input on that would be appreciated.

Thanks again.
post #8 of 17
We Head-fiers are more than happy to help you spend up all your money, anoobis.

salannelson, if you're in the market for a Miles Davis orchestral album (Round About Midnight is a small-group session), you might also try Porgy and Bess. It's a fine record (also orchestrated by Gil Evans) that used to get talked about a lot more than it does now, though I've never quite figured out why.
post #9 of 17
There are quite a few "Miles Davis's" - he changed dramatically during his long career, and there are lots of people who love certain phases of his music and despise others.

In a Silent Way, Bitch's Brew, and Live-Evil are the transitional pieces from acoustic jazz to the electric fusion stuff. The early Miles stuff is hard bop, and the quintet with Herbie Hancock, Ron carter, Tony Williams and Wayne Shorter (post Kind of Blue) is amazing driving acoustic jazz, but not cliche bop stuff.

I like Four and More, My Funny Valentine from that period. Also, if you try and like that stuff, listen to VSOP/Herbie Hancock acoustic stuff from that mold as well - very good stuff!!!!
post #10 of 17
I looove My Funny Valentine, one of the best live Jazz albums ever IMHO
post #11 of 17
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salannelson, if you're in the market for Miles Davis orchestral album (Round About Midnight is a small-group session), you might also try Porgy and Bess. It's a fine record (also orchestrated by Gil Evans) that used to get talked about a lot more than it does now, though I've never quite figured out why.
Yes, that's right RAM isn't w/ Gil Evans. I wasn't too sure about my post. I think I was getting that confused with Quiet Nights, which I also do not own..

I actually have Porgy and Bess, I enjoy it immensely
post #12 of 17
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I think I was getting that confused with Quiet Nights, which I also do not own...
Funny…Quiet Nights is one of the few pre-electric Miles Davis records that I would absolutely not recommend.
post #13 of 17
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Funny…Quiet Nights is one of the few pre-electric Miles Davis records that I would absolutely not recommend.
Care to elaborate? It's not one of my favorites but I do have it and like it (part of the gil evans box set)

It's not nearly as coherent or flowing as say Sketches of Spain but it has it's moments.

The liner notes for the set imply that its is somewhat of a "broken" album and that evans and miles never really finished it. However your response implies its up there with Tutu in awfulness

I have read somewhere else that Quiet Nights was what made "on the corner" possible and that is an equally divisive record. (i like it personally)
post #14 of 17
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It's not nearly as coherent or flowing as say Sketches of Spain but it has it's moments.
Not to be flip, but there's really not much else to say. That about sums it up. The most I could add is that I don't feel the need to hear the Miles/Gil versions of "Corcovado," say, or Michel Legrand's "Once Upon A Summertime," which are the among the best arrangements on Quiet Nights. If I wanna hear those tunes, there are certainly better versions, jazz or otherwise.
post #15 of 17
Sketches of Spain, Porgy & Bess, and Miles Ahead should certainly be considered before Quiet Nights. I own it all so I would never say don't get Quiet Nights, but if you are going at this with some sort of selection process Quiet Nights should not be first or second or...
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