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post #136 of 343
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Originally Posted by music_4321 View Post
As a service to the head-fi community we must do all we can to ensure that ALL existing members -- regardless of age and material wealth -- get the following items in the next 3 months:

-- JH13's,
-- HiFiMAN HM-801,
-- iQube/ RSA Shadow/ Pico Slim
-- Piccolino LOD's & cables.

The above gear is the absolute minimum required to continue being a member of head-fi. Failing to acquire all the above gear will cause their accounts to be suspended permanently.

To those joining head-fi -- regardless of age and material wealth -- it should be mandatory that in the course of 6 months they get all the gear outlined above or else their accounts will be closed permanently.
LOL! Music_4321, you kinda got a way with "innuendo!"
post #137 of 343
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Originally Posted by rlanger View Post
Maybe. But let me put it this way. If you offered every JH-13 Pro owner $2500 and said that they could spend it on any full size headphone/amp combo, but they would have to give up their JH-13s, I'm not sure you would have too many takers, if any. You might have to go a bit higher too before you found someone who'd make that deal.

l, for one, wouldn't make that deal. I'm not sure you could say the same for UE-11 and Es3x owners?

So it's no just the incredible sound quality that we are all excited about, it's the value too.
I am sure you are right. The thing I got from the appreciation thread is that everyone loves their JH-13Pro. How good it is, I am not sure. I am trying to manage my expectation.
post #138 of 343
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Originally Posted by LeeSC View Post
I am sure you are right. The thing I got from the appreciation thread is that everyone loves their JH-13Pro. How good it is, I am not sure. I am trying to manage my expectation.
They're extremely good.You're expectations, however, likely depend on your experience.

I had been fortunate enough to have heard pretty much every top tier headphone before I purchased my JH-13s. So, while l was expecting them to be really good, I never expected them to be as good as those top tier phones; and they are (or pretty close, anyway).

I was also one of the first to receive them so there wasn't a lot of discussion about how good they are before I got them.

If you haven't experienced high end headphones, I don't know what you'd be expecting. Either way though, you are not likely to be disappointed.
post #139 of 343
I have a question for JH13 Pro users: do the Pros have an audible background hiss when using portable amps? how about audible hiss without using any amps? Thanks in advance.
post #140 of 343
Larry,

I'm just curious, is there any hiss when you use you jh13's with the WA6? Seems like a powerful amp for such sensitive iems.

will
post #141 of 343
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by wsilvio View Post
Larry,

I'm just curious, is there any hiss when you use you jh13's with the WA6? Seems like a powerful amp for such sensitive iems.

will
No, my WA6 is dead silent with all my IEM. The JH13pro are less prone to hiss than my ES3X, as are the UE11Pro. Amps that have hiss with the ES3X don't have nearly as much with the other IEM.

But right now I only have a couple of amps where the hiss is a little bothersome with the ES3X - including my ALO Amphora and Macbook Pro headphone out. My iBasso D10 with AD743 opamps or an AD746 installed will his about as much as the Amphora, but the D10 got quieter with my AD744 output-bypassed class-A biased opamps (and stock it is quiet, as well as with OPA2350, etc).
post #142 of 343
@Jap, I have no hiss with my Mustang P-51.

BTW, great review HPA.
post #143 of 343
Larry,

Thanks. I have always been curious about tube amps an in particular the WA6. I plan on ordering my JH-13's after I get impressions made next week. Might be an excuse to get a WA6 someday!
post #144 of 343
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Originally Posted by pfillion View Post
@Jap, I have no hiss with my Mustang P-51.

BTW, great review HPA.

Thanks, Pfillion and Larry.

I never thought I would hear of an IEM that trumps many well regarded phones in many important categories. I didn't wake up to the reality of the JH13 Pro's until the recent thread comparing them to the HD800's. Although they certainly can obviate the need for a lot of peripheral equipment, seems like they can be enhanced by well chosen equipment too.
post #145 of 343
I've no doubt that the JH13 PRO is an IEM worthy of the superlatives being used to describe it but can it really have an airy quality and instrument separation comparable to top tier, open-backed, dynamic, full-sized headphones?
post #146 of 343
I apologize if someone already asked about this, but how are the microphonics on the JH13?
post #147 of 343
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Originally Posted by strid3r View Post
I apologize if someone already asked about this, but how are the microphonics on the JH13?
Completely, utterly, non-existent for me. The softness of the cables, coupled with the over-the-ear design of teh cable routing ake microphonics a non-issue.

Now, you will stull get the "underwater" effect you get with any IEM. For example, if you walk or run in them, you're likely to hear the shock of your feet hitting the pavement, but that's just your body itself conducting sound and shock energy, and there's nothing that can be done about that.
post #148 of 343
Good to know, thanks!
post #149 of 343
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by spleisher View Post
Completely, utterly, non-existent for me. The softness of the cables, coupled with the over-the-ear design of the cable routing make microphonics a non-issue.

Now, you will still get the "underwater" effect you get with any IEM. For example, if you walk or run in them, you're likely to hear the shock of your feet hitting the pavement, but that's just your body itself conducting sound and shock energy, and there's nothing that can be done about that.
Agreed. I can hear a "thump" in my ears when walking with just about any IEM, from conduction of sound via my body.
post #150 of 343
What a great review!! Thanks, Larry
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