Originally Posted by music_4321
I think an important factor to take into account is that JH was present at Can JAm -- he already had a very good reputation --, offered a 10% discount, and was offering what seemed to be a completely new beast - 6 drivers in each earpiece!
Quite a few people took the plunge, some of which are prominent members here, and I think that played a part in the often over-the-top responses seen on the JH13 thread.
Had similar numbers of people been given a similar chance at Can Jam, with a similar discount from Westone back in Jan/ Feb perhaps we might've seen a similar thing going on with the ES3X. As it was, the ES3X for a while caught a lot of people's attention, but not enough to make more 'prominent' members go for it. Perhaps if the ES3X had been priced at $1000 even more people would've been interested, as strange as this may sound.
You bring up a really good point about the effect of releasing a product in conjunction with the national meet.
The absolute 'classic' example that describes what you're suggesting happened when the Grado GS-1000 was released at one of the first CanJam's. You wouldn't believe the praise that they received. In fact, at the risk of wading into dangerous waters, Jude's reputation for objectivity took a major hit as a result of his tremendous enthusiasm for the new Grado.
Once the cans were formally released and some of the hype factors had died down, the GS-1000 was subjected to more objective criticism.
I'm not saying the JH13pro is similar to the GS-1000 in terms of being hyped without warrant. But I did notice that Jerry Harvey's personal charisma seemed to be mentioned in a number of the comments about the JH13pro's from CanJam. Again, I'm not saying that his personality is the driving force behind the sales, but these are the kinds of factors that you notice from an outsider perspective.
I was really lucky when I joined head-fi because I lived very close to a veteran member who had a ton of experience with gear and a very even tempered and developed ear. One of the great things about going to meets is that, sometimes, you'll get into an environment where some of the 'politcal correctness' that gets infused into opinions on head-fi can be dropped in favor of candor. I learned a lot from those experiences.
|I have seen so many times terms such as 'destroys'/ 'thrashes'/ 'beats hands down' to describe certain comparisons between certain top-tier universals or customs that by now I take such comments with a big, BIG grain of salt.
I think the ES3X for $800 compared to the other 2 flagship IEM's remains quite an interesting option.
I remain convinced the UM3X at $335 (including shipping) is certainly the best value for money when considering high-end portable SQ + comfort. $335 is still a lot of money, but when we're now talking $1,100/ $1,150 + ear impressions and shipping, then the UM3X seem like iBuds when clearly they aren't.
What I said a few months back seems to be coming true -- looks like many will do anything to get their hands now on a set of JH13's no matter what, and no matter whether they can actually truly afford such luxury.
Here in Spain (and Italy & Greece) quite a few people (younger people mostly) will do anything they can -- no matter how inappropriate/ unsuitable it may be -- to get their hands on a BMW or Mercedes.
I appreciate the critical perspective that you bring on these topics, while I know others can feel threatened by it. I still say you should take a more comical view of some of these phenomenon, but then again, I'm probably a little more cynical as a result of having been around a while.
Ironically, it's usually the folks that fit into your manic consumer stereotype that will react most defensively to such an insinuation. The truth can be threatening.
While you compare it to the car market, personally, I like comparing it to the computer gaming market. It applies to any hobby like this, though. It's a really interesting facet of consumer psychology that reflects a type of 'created wants' marketing phenomenon. Noam Chomsky is a good one for analysis of the basic structure and causes.
Anyways, on the topic of the comparison itself, one thing I wanted to mention is that I really like the decision Jerry Harvey made to bump the very low bass to create psychoacoustic impact.