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post #6766 of 6771
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I suppose I haven't quite followed what you are saying and how it answers my question. You mean it is not a good idea to use a preamp with the BHSE?

 

The BHSE has a volume control so adding another one from a preamp is redundant and potentially cause sonic degradation. However if you don't like your "wire with gain" then adding something more to add color might be beneficial for you and so what if you have two volume controls. Most headphone amps have the preamp built in and so include their own. 

post #6767 of 6771
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For those who like to have more tube warmth with the SR009, does it make sense to add a good preamp in front of the BHSE? Thinking of using the Apex Teton as preamp. Will the addition of another component detract from transparency too much? I know that's a bit contradictory as the very point of doing that is to add some tube distortion, but my question is whether anyone has done this and gotten good results.

What's your experience been with the BHSE/SR-009 so far? Just curious why your asking this question.

post #6768 of 6771
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Originally Posted by Earspeakers View Post

The BHSE has a volume control so adding another one from a preamp is redundant and potentially cause sonic degradation. However if you don't like your "wire with gain" then adding something more to add color might be beneficial for you and so what if you have two volume controls. Most headphone amps have the preamp built in and so include their own. 

That is why I would rather add a vitalizer (something like this http://spl.info/index.php?id=116&L=1) to give the sound some tube Warmth or even better get a Smyth Realiser.
post #6769 of 6771
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Originally Posted by Golfnutz View Post

What's your experience been with the BHSE/SR-009 so far? Just curious why your asking this question.
I'm on the list for BHSE and I have had the SR009 for about 6 months. Prepared to wait for at least another year for the BHSE.

I found that the SR009 sounds amazing with that bit of tube distortion, as I have experienced with the Woo WA5 & Woo WEE. But I want to hear the SR009
with an ultimately transparent amp like the BHSE and it seems the addituon of preamp is a good solution.
post #6770 of 6771

After a few more weeks with my BHSE/009 combo, I'm still not hearing any brightness issues at all. So I can't see the need to consider anything to "warm up" the sound. You just need to symathetically choose the other components to be as transparent as possible.

 

Although tube/cable/source choices can have a tonal affect, IMO the right choice of these items can reduce brightness issues not by adding artificlal warmth, but by increasing transparency - by the removal of various upper frequency hash/brash/grain/strain artefacts.

 

And incredulous as it may seem, if you still have some brightness left over, then get a free trial of the SR Red fuses and be prepared to be surprised.

post #6771 of 6771
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Originally Posted by TheAttorney View Post
 

After a few more weeks with my BHSE/009 combo, I'm still not hearing any brightness issues at all. So I can't see the need to consider anything to "warm up" the sound. You just need to symathetically choose the other components to be as transparent as possible.

 

Although tube/cable/source choices can have a tonal affect, IMO the right choice of these items can reduce brightness issues not by adding artificlal warmth, but by increasing transparency - by the removal of various upper frequency hash/brash/grain/strain artefacts.

 

And incredulous as it may seem, if you still have some brightness left over, then get a free trial of the SR Red fuses and be prepared to be surprised.

In my view, the brightness issues could lie with the DAC. I almost abandoned RedBook until I got hold of a none oversampling DAC. That got rid of the digititous I hated with other DACs I had, and now I can enjoy detail and transparency with no digital or treble edge. IMO a lot of modern DACs (as in Delta-Sigma) are overly bright, or 'hifi' sounding. It impresses in the demo room (a short test) but kills me at home.... Check out the Audio Note DACs.

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