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post #5251 of 6196
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I got mine from Grant Fidelity .

Sorry if I'm getting on head-fiers nerves mentioning the PH's all the time, but when I was using the stock Mullard's and SED's I was never completely happy listening to my 009's driven by the BHSE, but with the PH's I couldn't be happier, they have calmed down the highs yet retained all the detail.


How long did you have to wait to get them from GF?

post #5252 of 6196
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How long did you have to wait to get them from GF?

The PH's were delivered from Hong Kong to the UK and both quads I got took about 3 weeks.
post #5253 of 6196

"Mesa Boogie STR-447", my new deserted island tubes (I’m using GRY, and not sure how much the color code matters as long as the quad is the same).

 

Best bass I’ve heard in my system, good midrange, treble might be a bit too much depending on the recording (adjust volume accordingly).

 

Detail extraction could slightly be too much at times as some sounds don’t come across the way they should (i.e. short finger snapping might sound like ticks). Probably due to narrow soundstage (narrower than EL34PH).

 

I would describe these tubes as raw. Presentation has a nice dynamic sound to them (compared to the other tubes I’ve used in my BHSE).

 

Not perfect by any stretch, but right now I enjoy them a lot more than EL34PH. Minimum 100 hours break-in. Try them before asking any questions. $100 for a quad.


Edited by Golfnutz - 5/22/14 at 11:11am
post #5254 of 6196
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"Mesa Boogie STR-447", my new deserted island tubes (I’m using GRY, and not sure how much the color code matters as long as the quad is the same).

 

Best bass I’ve heard in my system, good midrange, treble might be a bit too much depending on the recording (adjust volume accordingly).

 

Detail extraction could slightly be too much at times as some sounds don’t come across the way they should (i.e. short finger snapping might sound like ticks). Probably due to narrow soundstage (narrower than EL34PH).

 

I would describe these tubes as raw. Presentation has a nice dynamic sound to them (compared to the other tubes I’ve used in my BHSE).

 

Not perfect by any stretch, but right now I enjoy them a lot more than EL34PH. Minimum 100 hours break-in. Try them before asking any questions. $100 for a quad.

Thank you Golfnutz. Any links to these marvels? (I'm not sure I will have enough time to search for them)

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post #5256 of 6196
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Originally Posted by Phil95 View Post
 

Thank you Golfnutz. Any links to these marvels? (I'm not sure I will have enough time to search for them)

I wouldn't call these marvels by any means. I'm not sure you'll like them, you really need an open mind to get past some of the inherent negatives that come along with them (your CD collection will shrink for sure). You should be able to pick them up at local music stores in your area. I wouldn't recommend these for anyone looking for perfection.

post #5257 of 6196
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http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/MBEL34D/

Thanks Mr. Sneis. The description on that page is pretty accurate. The detail highs can really be too detailed with certain CD's (volume control is very useful for highly compressed CD's).

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Would be nice if there were a single location for how the tubes stack up against each other without having to do super sleuthing.  That I'd like to see.

post #5259 of 6196

A while back someone tried to start a separate BHSE tube rolling thread, and immediately someone else said no, keep it here. You can't please all the people all the time.

 

@Golfnutz, it's good to see a new contender, especially at a low price, but I'll pass on this one - especially the brightness part.

My PHs have settled in nicely now. Even that whiney rattle has faded away. And with the Herbie tube dampers taking the SQ up another notch, I don't feel I'm wanting for anything. So at this point in my tube rolling journey, if it ain't broke, then don't fix it. If the PHs do break one day, then I'll take a look at these new contenders.


Edited by TheAttorney - 5/23/14 at 4:48am
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Which version of the dampers did you get and which size?
Thanks
post #5261 of 6196
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Originally Posted by Golfnutz View Post
 

Thanks Mr. Sneis. The description on that page is pretty accurate. The detail highs can really be too detailed with certain CD's (volume control is very useful for highly compressed CD's).

 

As I've upgraded components (silver cables, dCS DAC, Atomic Clock, etc), the most noticeable improvement in SQ was more detail in the treble frequencies.  If the Mesa Boogie 447s follow that pattern they may be great tubes indeed. 

post #5262 of 6196

This is what my valve supplier says about these Mesa Boogie 447s

 

Mesa EL34 STR-447 is made by Sovtek in Russia.
This is known by most of us as the Sovtek EL34 Electro harmonix.
The Sovtek produces a hard and aggressive sound in Mesa which will be to many Rock players taste. So if you want the same item then you need to order the EL34 Electro Harmonix from us.

Upgrades can be made by using the winged C Svetlana EL34, Harma E34L-STR, JJ/Tesla E34L .
The Harma EL34-Retro proved to give an Aggresive edge but with more punch and top end clarity than the Sovtek/EH type and would be my recommendation for Grunge/Metal players

post #5263 of 6196
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Originally Posted by complin View Post
 

This is what my valve supplier says about these Mesa Boogie 447s

 

Mesa EL34 STR-447 is made by Sovtek in Russia.
This is known by most of us as the Sovtek EL34 Electro harmonix.
The Sovtek produces a hard and aggressive sound in Mesa which will be to many Rock players taste. So if you want the same item then you need to order the EL34 Electro Harmonix from us.

Upgrades can be made by using the winged C Svetlana EL34, Harma E34L-STR, JJ/Tesla E34L .
The Harma EL34-Retro proved to give an Aggresive edge but with more punch and top end clarity than the Sovtek/EH type and would be my recommendation for Grunge/Metal players


I've had the SED Winged C's, and these perform nothing like them (think I read somewhere they are discontinued now).

 

Probably Grunge/Metal music would be the worse for these given some of the brightness I've heard. More suited to Pop/Rock/Jazz. The only brightness issue I have is with some voicing. Maybe he means in Guitar Amp's. I wonder if he's heard the BHSE/SR-009 combination.

 

Mesa 447 are suppose to have better QC and matched better than the EH's. Might also be minor differences between them as well.

 

I've clearly said, I don't recommend these to anyone unless they have an open mind. However, I do clearly prefer them to the EL34PH.

post #5264 of 6196
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Originally Posted by Mr.Sneis View Post
 

http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/MBEL34D/


Thanks for the link Mr.Sneis. A tube stack-up dedicated thread would be a very good thing -for the BHSE or any other amp.

post #5265 of 6196

Yes he is talking about their use in Guitar Amp's not Audio, but would suggest the sound characteristics to be broadly similar. These are manufactured in Russia an generally I do find their modern productions somewhat on the bright side.

 

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Originally Posted by Golfnutz View Post
 


I've had the SED Winged C's, and these perform nothing like them (think I read somewhere they are discontinued now).

 

Probably Grunge/Metal music would be the worse for these given some of the brightness I've heard. More suited to Pop/Rock/Jazz. The only brightness issue I have is with some voicing. Maybe he means in Guitar Amp's. I wonder if he's heard the BHSE/SR-009 combination.

 

Mesa 447 are suppose to have better QC and matched better than the EH's. Might also be minor differences between them as well.

 

I've clearly said, I don't recommend these to anyone unless they have an open mind. However, I do clearly prefer them to the EL34PH.

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