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post #5176 of 5991
Not a chance. I see great sales for good tube based amplifiers. It is a market that is alive and kicking. Hey, even Esoteric make
a valve amp! And I know for a fact working with tube amp manufacturers, that the Chinese can't get enough of valve based amps
and efficient speakers to go with them.

The survival of such a company is not so much the market wanting them, it is to me, the SQ v price v service backup.
It is a smaller but quite competitive market so obviously the SQ and parts quality has to align with the price to sell in
any quantities.

I am new to the Electrostatic forum, but I can see a micro version of this same market here. At least we have 4 or 5 good
amps that can realistically fight it out for the top spot, which has to be good for the consumer right?

Here's hoping it goes from strength to strength.

BTW I see some saying the market is tiny, and I understand that, based on say 40 x 009s made per month. But there is
a strong following for the 007s and even the Koss models (which probably sell more units than 40 pm),
that may look to buy a BHSE or WOO WES. Maybe it is not as small as we may imagine?
post #5177 of 5991
I guess there will be some wild speculation going round once Justin stops producing the BHSE as to what new amp he might turn his talents to.
... T2,SuSy Dynahi?
very_evil_smiley.gifwink.gif
post #5178 of 5991

Its very difficult at the moment at least to compete with the Chinese on price. Quality, build options and innovation is another matter which is where Justin can score. I have purchased several Headamp's over the years and they have always been top notch.  

It won't be long before a Chinese outfit clones the BHSE, we think there may be a clone being produced now of the KGSS?

 

Yes the Chinese make boat loads of valves/tubes these days but many are of dubious quality and some sound like finger-nails being drawn down glass. I wish they would go for quality rather than quantity. Suppose its a bit like when the Japanese first started producing electronics, quite poor initially but world leaders in many fields now.

 

Maybe Justin might start producing the Megatron Stat Amp from the same designer as the BHSE. If interested you will have to Google it as linking to it is prohibited here. 

 

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Originally Posted by astrostar59 View Post

Not a chance. I see great sales for good tube based amplifiers. It is a market that is alive and kicking. Hey, even Esoteric make
a valve amp! And I know for a fact working with tube amp manufacturers, that the Chinese can't get enough of valve based amps
and efficient speakers to go with them.

The survival of such a company is not so much the market wanting them, it is to me, the SQ v price v service backup.
It is a smaller but quite competitive market so obviously the SQ and parts quality has to align with the price to sell in
any quantities.

I am new to the Electrostatic forum, but I can see a micro version of this same market here. At least we have 4 or 5 good
amps that can realistically fight it out for the top spot, which has to be good for the consumer right?

Here's hoping it goes from strength to strength.

BTW I see some saying the market is tiny, and I understand that, based on say 40 x 009s made per month. But there is
a strong following for the 007s and even the Koss models (which probably sell more units than 40 pm),
that may look to buy a BHSE or WOO WES. Maybe it is not as small as we may imagine?

Edited by complin - 5/10/14 at 8:48am
post #5179 of 5991

Yes, the sad reality is that with the demise of CRT televisions and monitors there is really no mass-market applications left for the particular high voltage parts that are used in the BHSE so they are becoming extinct.

 

The BHSE while using tubes is essentially a solid state amp at its core; it has virtually no similarity to a typical valve amplifier design.

 

On a side note: While the 009's are in high demand and are typically what one uses with the BHSE; you want to have some (alternative) fun on the cheap? Order a set of the new Stax SR-003 MK2 "in-the-earspeaker" from Justin and run them off the BHSE, crazy good, yes really. 

post #5180 of 5991
Yes, there are poor quality Chinese valves about, but I have been using TJ Full Music 300Bs in my SET amps for years, and they are very close to top US made valves. If the Chinese made top quality capacitors that could / would reduce the price of good quality amps for sure.

Seems to me that there are 2 worlds in the Chinese markets, and the better quality stuff is a small but slowly improving part of it.
Trouble is, even the Chinese don't seem to trust their own stuff, having to resort to coming to London to buy genuine (none copies ) products...
post #5181 of 5991
its the low capacitance lateral mosfets that are the problem to source at the moment.
All the other parts have or will soon have replacements due to the growing solar
power market which is going to be around a very long time.

audio-gd is an example of chinese made product that has the quality to compete with
the boutique american manufacturers at a price no one can compete with.

i expect more and more high end chinese product to show up at some point.
Edited by kevin gilmore - 5/10/14 at 3:30pm
post #5182 of 5991
Quote:
Originally Posted by Audio Jester View Post

I guess there will be some wild speculation going round once Justin stops producing the BHSE as to what new amp he might turn his talents to.
... T2,SuSy Dynahi?
very_evil_smiley.gifwink.gif

 

A SuSy Dynahi would be great as it could be an upgrade from the GS-X mk2.

post #5183 of 5991
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Originally Posted by britneedadvice View Post
 

Come off it,I've just bought a VTL S200 for that money.A product that is new to the Market and I got it delivered ( to the UK ) within 2 months of audition! (I think I put up £1000 deposit) This unit is receiving critical acclaim and is in much demand!....and there's a lot more (technically) to it!! So, without getting into the argument of just how good it is(with the 009s) makes you think??!!

Why is Apple thinking of wasting their time and money on Beats when they could buy HeadAmp, and Stax, for that matter, and then apply their standard distribution techniques?  Hmm.  Anyone got Tim Cook's email address?

post #5184 of 5991

apple should buy Harman international first.

 

 

the ss dynahi is a very powerful amp for low impedance low efficiency headphones.

 

what I need to do is come up with something between the gsx2 and the ss dynahi

that is fully differential and balanced and not goofy high amounts of power.


Edited by kevin gilmore - 5/10/14 at 5:35pm
post #5185 of 5991

Apple is going down the road to self annihilation.  I've got some suggestions for T. Cook as well . . . :p

post #5186 of 5991
Quote:
Originally Posted by kevin gilmore View Post

apple should buy Harman international first.


the ss dynahi is a very powerful amp for low impedance low efficiency headphones.

what I need to do is come up with something between the gsx2 and the ss dynahi
that is fully differential and balanced and not goofy high amounts of power.
Thanks Kevin, contact me when it's ready to go! biggrin.gifwink.gif

.... Why didn't I study electrical engineering at uni? Lol.
post #5187 of 5991

Because Apple is into mass mass market stuff sold in the millions that can be made for peanuts in the far east with huge profit margins!! Its estimated the $650 iphone cost apple less than $200 to make :eek: 

 

Personally I just don't think think these would scale that easily to millions of units while retaining the quality and attention to detail. The EStat market is quite niche too with an entry level cost above crap like Beats and Dr Dre.

 

I agree with you sentiment though

 

 

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Originally Posted by statfi View Post
 

Why is Apple thinking of wasting their time and money on Beats when they could buy HeadAmp, and Stax, for that matter, and then apply their standard distribution techniques?  Hmm.  Anyone got Tim Cook's email address?

post #5188 of 5991

There is also development taking place I believe combining tubes/transistors into a single device to exploit the best attributes of both. I dont know if this is going to include produce anything suitable.

However I believe KR Audio (KRON) in the Czech Republic developed and manufactured a hybrid tube including silicon technology the Vacuum Transistor but it was a bit before its time.

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Originally Posted by kevin gilmore View Post

its the low capacitance lateral mosfets that are the problem to source at the moment.
All the other parts have or will soon have replacements due to the growing solar
power market which is going to be around a very long time.
 
post #5189 of 5991
Anyone know what the size of the e-stat market actually is? How many Stax headphones are made per month for example?

I wonder if the market for them is not promoted enough, has no real sized dealer network and thus the audiophile mainstream
customers are ignorant to the SQ on offer.

It may be a pity huge companies (in head phone world) like Sennheiser have not managed to market such a product in real world
volume. The other side of the market IEM is booming I guess because of the portability aspect.

And if the e-stat market was bigger, had more players, surely the prices would come down as mass production went up?

Dunno. I am not complaining, the SQ of Stax gear is that good I will find the money for it somehow, as do other die hards.
It is an expensive hobby though.
post #5190 of 5991
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Originally Posted by David1961 View Post
 
I think you'd still be successful if you decided to build only portable amps and DAC's. You'd also probably end up with a lot less hassle, but that's only IMO.

Car companies like McLaren and Ferrari produce vehicles primarily to help finance their racing teams. Maybe Justin makes the portables to help finance the limited production TOTL amps.:smile:

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