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post #2536 of 6024

The BHSE doesn't bring the 007 to 009 level.  The 009 definitely still is superior on detail extraction since the 007 naturally has a dark signature.  To get a similar level of detail on the 007 on the BHSE, I have to turn the volume up beyond the levels I normally listen at.

 

That said, the BHSE accentuates characteristics of the 007 I personally find very enjoyable, without compromising the non-fatiguing character of the 007.  The 007 is still the most non-fatiguing headphone I've ever heard, and if I'm going to be listening to music for several hours on a headphone, I'd reach for the 007 in a heartbeat.  The BHSE does really nice things with naturally expanding the soundstage without making the headphone sound overly resonant and gives the bass a satisfying level of presence.  It's not HE6 or LCD3 impact, but the bass on the BHSE+007 seems to have more discernible texture than a well-amped high-end ortho, though it's not nearly as speaker-like as the HE6 is.  The proto LL actually made the 009 more 007-like to my ears which is why I thought the proto LL+009 pairing was nice.  Even on the BHSE, the 009 has etch to my ears, but I'm very sensitive to brightness and etch.  I'd need to listen to the LL again to decide more conclusively if it had a similar level of etch, but I do remember the LL mellowing out the 009 qualities I don't really care for.  A lot of it will come down to what your preference for musicality is.

 

Build quality on the BHSE is sublime.  I don't think you can do better in headphoneland.  It'll take a significant change in personal circumstances for me to part with the amp.

post #2537 of 6024

Hello David1961

 

I've read your 17 Sep post with great interest for two reasons:

 

1. Your combo looks close to mine: Esoteric K-01, Stax SR009 and Stax SRM007-tII. The Stax amp is excellent if we consider its price, but I think the SR009 deserves something better -e.g. a BHSE like yours. Hence a few technical questions:

    a) I use x2 upsampling and S_DLY1 filter with the K-01. Do you agree with this?

    b) Which cables do you use between the source and the BHSE (make, reference)? Do you think that balanced (XLR) path is better than unbalanced (RCA) with the BHSE?

     c) Any servicing problem with the BHSE (tube bias setting for instance)?

     d) It seems there is no way to adjust the volume balance between R and L channels on the BHSE. Don't you think this is problem? (many recordings are poorly "centered")

 

2.  I noticed that you live in UK and therefore I suppose you bought your BHSE by mail... Did you have any problems ordering, paying (which pay mode did you use) or getting your amp? In other words is the source (Justin Wilson?) trustworthy? -Sorry Mr Wilson if you read this mail. As you probably guessed, I'm a foreigner too (from the US point of view) -a Frenchman to be precise, and I hesitate when it comes to sending $6000 across the ocean.

 

Many Thanks David for the information you already provided to headphones addicts.

 

Philippe

post #2538 of 6024
Elysean, thanks for the substantial and substantiated reply wink.gif.
post #2539 of 6024
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Originally Posted by Phil95 View Post

 

2.  I noticed that you live in UK and therefore I suppose you bought your BHSE by mail... Did you have any problems ordering, paying (which pay mode did you use) or getting your amp? In other words is the source (Justin Wilson?) trustworthy? -Sorry Mr Wilson if you read this mail. As you probably guessed, I'm a foreigner too (from the US point of view) -a Frenchman to be precise, and I hesitate when it comes to sending $6000 across the ocean.

 

Many Thanks David for the information you already provided to headphones addicts.

 

Philippe

I also live in the UK. I put in my deposit by Credit Card. One can also pay by Paypal direct if you have a Paypal account. I sent the remaining amount by direct bank to bank transfer from my current account - just needed to add Justin's bank details into my current account's bill paying service. 

 

All financial transactions went fine. You don't need to worry about Justin's trustworthyness. 

The main thing you have to worry about is the length of time you have to wait before the amp is built :o)

 

Also, I was very pleasantly surprised by the import/VAT duty I ended up paying (unless there's a sting in the tail I've yet to experience). Thank you, thank you.

post #2540 of 6024
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Originally Posted by Phil95 View Post

Hello David1961

 

I've read your 17 Sep post with great interest for two reasons:

 

1. Your combo looks close to mine: Esoteric K-01, Stax SR009 and Stax SRM007-tII. The Stax amp is excellent if we consider its price, but I think the SR009 deserves something better -e.g. a BHSE like yours. Hence a few technical questions:

    a) I use x2 upsampling and S_DLY1 filter with the K-01. Do you agree with this?

    b) Which cables do you use between the source and the BHSE (make, reference)? Do you think that balanced (XLR) path is better than unbalanced (RCA) with the BHSE?

     c) Any servicing problem with the BHSE (tube bias setting for instance)?

     d) It seems there is no way to adjust the volume balance between R and L channels on the BHSE. Don't you think this is problem? (many recordings are poorly "centered")

 

2.  I noticed that you live in UK and therefore I suppose you bought your BHSE by mail... Did you have any problems ordering, paying (which pay mode did you use) or getting your amp? In other words is the source (Justin Wilson?) trustworthy? -Sorry Mr Wilson if you read this mail. As you probably guessed, I'm a foreigner too (from the US point of view) -a Frenchman to be precise, and I hesitate when it comes to sending $6000 across the ocean.

 

Many Thanks David for the information you already provided to headphones addicts.

 

Philippe

 

Hi Philippe

 

Last year I had the SRM007t driving the 007mk1's but used them as part exchange for the K-01, so I never heard that amp with the K-01. Before I got the BHSE I did hear my 009's with IanG's SRM007t and SRM717 and I preferred the 717, I didn't like his SRM007t especially with the 007's because to me it made the SQ veiled which is what I heard when I had it, the BHSE is something different. 

 

While the BHSE is an amazing amp, IMO I don't think the 009 is the right headphone for it. The SQ is brilliant but volume is an issue, I had no such problem when I heard Ian's 007's with the BHSE but the 007 isn't as detailed and transparent as the 009.

 

I've tried the different settings on the K-01 and to my ears I can't tell any difference, everything is so good, however googleli can so it's probably best to ask him.

 

The cable I'm using is on my profile. I've tried both XLR and RCA and I can't hear any difference. I only use XLR because on the K-01 there's a 0dB and +6dB mode which can only be used with XLR, the +6dB is like a boost to the volume.

 

I got some SED EL34's after a recommendation from Birgir and the biasing was straight forward, but only after seeing a video Justin did on youtube, getting to 0 on the multimetre was a bit tricky though.

 

I don't know anything about adjusting the volume balance between R and L channels, better off asking Justin

 

I had no problems whatsoever when doing business with Justin, that's why I've got two more amps on order with him [ Aristaeus + GS-X ]. I actually ordered the BHSE twice via PayPal, but the first time I knew I wouldn't have the money for the remaining payments so I canceled. After sending Justin an email about me wanting to cancel, the deposit I put down was back in my PayPal account within 1 or 2 days.

Only a deposit is needed to place an order for the BHSE, if you go onto Justin's website you'll see what that is.

 

                                                         

                                                              Hope this has helped

 

                                                                   Dave.

 

P.S. The SQ of the BHSE is unbelievably but it's BQ and looks are that too, in fact when I receive the Aristaeus and GS-X I'm placing them on my audio rack and I'm going to start looking at everything on the rack instead of the TV. Yes I'm starting to become a sad person but I'll stand for that.

post #2541 of 6024
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Originally Posted by Elysian View Post

Anyone try tube rolling their BHSE with any new production tubes?  I've been thinking of trying the Gold Lion KT77s.  Any other ones to look for?  Some people seem to like the Winged SEDs quite a bit.

 

I'm in no hurry, but am curious about the Shuguang Treasures - if only for the looks of the fatter curvy tubes. Also, I've asked the man from "Mullard Magic" in the UK to see what he can find on good second hand Mullards xf1-4s. He reckons that good examples can be close to NOS, but at a much lower price. He happened to have a single old Mullard at the show - it measured around 70 MA current (and the second reading was around 7). This was much higher than the 33 MA (and around 5) of the stock JJs. Is higher a good thing? I think higher means more gain, but I'm a newbie on tubes.

 

Incidentally, the stock tubes on my BHSE produce a slight, but significant, high pitched ringing in normal operation, beyond the expected ringing/pinking during start up and cool down. Is this normal? I can hear this from several feet away in a quiet room. This mechanical ringing does not seem to translate to noise heard through the phones. In fact, the background silence through the phones is very impressive, compared to my previous SRM007t.

post #2542 of 6024

The New Sensor Mullards all have that ringing.  The build quality really isn't what it used to be... 

post #2543 of 6024

I listened to several CD's today and after my BHSE + K-01 had been on for about 3 hours I decided to put Coldplays Greatest Hits on again  { tubes being used are SED EL34 cryo ] and the song Charlie Brown on that double CD album is sensational. I've had the BHSE for about three months and it seems to be improving with time. Listening to some of the songs on that Coldplay album using 009 + BHSE + K-01 is starting to be an emotional musical experience for me. 


Edited by David1961 - 9/19/12 at 11:06pm
post #2544 of 6024

Some feel the BHSE at $5000 -$6000 isn't cheap, but Justin I believe doesn't use either retailers or distributors, if he did then the BHSE would probably be more in the region of $8000 - $9000. I'm not knocking retailers & distributors because the good thing about in particular the retailer, is that if anything did go wrong with the product you bought then you just give it back to he or she and they'd sort it out. My point being, IMO the BHSE at $5000 - $6000 really is good value for money.

 

P.S. I believe Cavalli and a few other builders don't use retailers or distributors. 


Edited by David1961 - 9/20/12 at 12:18am
post #2545 of 6024
I consider Justins BHSE a true bargain. If I didn't build my own amps I'd be a BHSE owner.
post #2546 of 6024
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Originally Posted by David1961 View Post
P.S. I believe Cavalli and a few other builders don't use retailers or distributors. 

 

Actually, Cavalli do use dealers, as well as selling direct.

 

The LL at the UK Meet was provided by High End Workshop, who also happen to sell Stax and Stax spare parts. That's where I found out that the cost of a set of SR007 Mk2 replacement pads was £85 eek.gif, with headband extra. Apparently, the 009 pads cost much more.

 

I agree that a good local dealer, especially for imported products, can be very useful, both for demoing and for after sales. But they do have to make their profit. I agree that the BHSE would probably cost in the order of $9k, or maybe more, if it had to go through a full importer/distributor/dealer network.

post #2547 of 6024
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Originally Posted by TheAttorney View Post

 

Actually, Cavalli do use dealers, as well as selling direct.

 

The LL at the UK Meet was provided by High End Workshop, who also happen to sell Stax and Stax spare parts. That's where I found out that the cost of a set of SR007 Mk2 replacement pads was £85 eek.gif, with headband extra. Apparently, the 009 pads cost much more.

 

I agree that a good local dealer, especially for imported products, can be very useful, both for demoing and for after sales. But they do have to make their profit. I agree that the BHSE would probably cost in the order of $9k, or maybe more, if it had to go through a full importer/distributor/dealer network.

 

Sorry I didn't know that about Cavalli, but I'm pretty sure Justin doesn't.

post #2548 of 6024

Has anyone compared the SED Winged C to the reissued Genalex Gold Lion KT77 using SR-009 ?

post #2549 of 6024

Cavalli had dealers for the LF.  It does not use dealers in the US for the LL - it is possible he does internationally, though I hadn't heard that.

post #2550 of 6024

It would make sense to use dealers internationally (for the customer). But I'm with you. While I know there are a few international dealers for the LF I don't think there are any for the LL. The first run was very small.

 

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Originally Posted by Radio_head View Post

Cavalli had dealers for the LF.  It does not use dealers in the US for the LL - it is possible he does internationally, though I hadn't heard that.

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