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Monster Beats by Dr Dre or Monster turbines?

post #1 of 20
Thread Starter 
I heard Dr dres "aren't really audiophile"

i dont understand that statement because dr dre's headphones are from monster...

Beats™ by Dr. Dre™ Tour High Resolution In-Ear Headphones From Monster®

help me out guys, im leaning towards the turbines, but after some researching, arent the beats also "audiophile"?
post #2 of 20
DId you do a search on the the Beats? There's quite a few threads that should be helpful.
post #3 of 20
I tried the full can in Best Buy A/B with my FPE and UM3X using their demo, they are good for hip pop and rap has very bright sound with bass that is typical for these kind of music, not sure if this is right but car sub-woofer like bass but better quality one. which mean great for regular American style hip pop but there are a lot of kind of musics won't sound right with such sound signiture (classical, Asian pop, some older style pre-80's, tribal....) it is great for what it meant for but not so all around. if the full can won't do it I doubt the small one will be better.

also the cable seems too thick and heavy to carry around or stay well in ear for some other people in head-fi.
post #4 of 20
i agree with hsiu - if you are into contemporary popular american music, they sound great. if not, look way away as they are tweaked for MTV.

my review of the Tour.
post #5 of 20
Thread Starter 
So to sum it up, you recommend the turbines over the beats?
post #6 of 20
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Originally Posted by whatahii View Post
I heard Dr dres "aren't really audiophile"

i dont understand that statement because dr dre's headphones are from monster...
No the beats are not audiophile phones because they do not reproduce sound accurately or realistically. They just overpower you with tons of low quality bass.
post #7 of 20
You're bating us, aren't you? ... Well, if not, read around, but also listen if you can! You'll find little Monster (marketing/crap) or Bose (crap/marketing) love here. However, the ULTRA SUEDE case does look pretty audiophile.
post #8 of 20
the turbine is a good sounding earphone actually. i would have not thought so until i listened to it. i was poisoned by headfi hate of monster and will admit to being prejudiced against their stuff in terms of what i walk about with. but, no matter, their turbine is a great earphone with a lousy cable.

had its cable been better, i would have probably given it my utmost recommendations.

bagging on a box isn't very good. few manufacturers supply good accessories or boxes. to get into the jays for instance, you have to use knives, cutters and possibly hurt your fingers. while the jays has a much better construction, i was surprised at its box.

i am not joking. for people who make a purchase and intend to stay with it, packaging may mean a lot.

the beats tour is not a very good phone for a variety of music. but, it is not a bad phone. those who like it, will really like it, but it is not for me. as for its bass, i think the turbine has more and handily will go lower and present very resolved music.

you will not find love around here for bose or for monster, but i have no idea why. neither company do anything really different than a myriad of other companies which are supported by headfiers.
post #9 of 20
i'm worried at all the beats, going up for bid on ebay!@
post #10 of 20
Quote:
Originally Posted by whatahii View Post
I heard Dr dres "aren't really audiophile"

i dont understand that statement because dr dre's headphones are from monster...

Beats™ by Dr. Dre™ Tour High Resolution In-Ear Headphones From Monster®

help me out guys, im leaning towards the turbines, but after some researching, arent the beats also "audiophile"?

The Turbines are pretty good for thier price if you like alot of bass...... The Dr Dre Beats are hip hop bass cannons are not a good buy for thier price. They are NOT similar enough in SQ to compare them. You must separate the two. and search for your answers individualy
post #11 of 20
Quote:
Originally Posted by whatahii View Post
I heard Dr dres "aren't really audiophile"

i dont understand that statement because dr dre's headphones are from monster...

Beats™ by Dr. Dre™ Tour High Resolution In-Ear Headphones From Monster®

help me out guys, im leaning towards the turbines, but after some researching, arent the beats also "audiophile"?
Nothing Monster makes is audiophile. Monster is targeted towards the "upscale" consumer electronics purchaser. Just like Bose, for that matter. Monster and Bose want to capture the "high end" of sales at places like Best Buy or a Sears electronics section. When people go into an ordinary electronics shop, Monster and Bose want to be the "best" available.

The difference is that there are many lesser known companies that make superior products. However, you usually have to poke around the Internet and find enthusiast websites (like this place) to learn about what the best products really are, from the geeks who buy and listen to all of them. The headphones discussed at Head-Fi are a cut above anything you'll find at the mall.

If you want the geeks to turn you on to what truly sounds good, post your budget, musical tastes and associated equipment and ask for recommendations. You'll get a bunch of good ones.

Also, if you check around, you are going to find posts from lots and lots of people who were turned on to headphones they never knew existed. They love them.

So forget Monster and let's figure out what would really make you happy.
post #12 of 20
If your looking for bass try the FX500's. You can get them from seyo-shop.com for $146 shipped. Around the same price as the beats but a better quality phone. I recieved mine in less than a week from japan yesterday and I think they are awesome. I dont have much burn in time but they sound pretty good out of the box. A ton of bass and the vocals and highs are great. The mids could be better but ill have to see what some burn in will do.
post #13 of 20
as Shigzeo said, the Turbines are not that bad tbh. Really they arn't. You can even ask Jude, good old founder of Head-fi, as he's met the main R & D designer of Monster's earphone products. *sigh* The usual Monster hate in here*

I'm not saying Monster products are the best, I'm saying their earphones are not that bad and have far more substance than their cables.
yes, good stuff can come from 'bad' companies as much as crap products can come from 'good' companies e.g. Shure SE110, the whole Sennheiser 'PC' series, the Sennheiser PC350....
post #14 of 20
Erik: though Monster doesn't make ultra-high end, they serve the mid end very well with the Turbine, and I expect when the Turbine Pro comes out, it will do the same. However, saying that, many companies then need to be eliminated from headfi if Monster, who doesn't do 'audiophile' (according to whatever your definition of it is), then so don't many companies here: nuforce, audeo, jays, soundmagic, etc. - all companies who are well-respected by 'audiophiles'.

The OP may listen to the monster and not like them at all, but then again, his/her tastes may enjoy the Turbine or ... even the beats tour. One thing is for sure: Monster won't have any trouble with their housing falling apart. It would be so nice of 'audiophile' companies joined the ranks of creating high-quality housing which will last the consumer long enough to truly enjoy it.

I'm no Monster fan; in fact, I am no longer a fan of any company in particular, but I respect well made, well presented products which sound good. The Turbine is one and though it ain't perfect, many companies could draw some good inspiration from their designs - which for the person who likes music and upgraded sound quality, and who thinks of both when purchasing -- obviously we cannot call this person an audiophile -- are very good.
post #15 of 20
Tour shows more details in music and it has better soundstage than Turbine.
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