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post #46 of 65
Excellent review, LA7000 vs DX-1000 would be awesome from experienced headfies like you guys....
post #47 of 65
Man I'd love to hear the LA7000 when I am so impressed already with the D7000!
post #48 of 65

This review will somehow help me to decide what i really want :) Thanks. Check your PM box.

post #49 of 65
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I really do love my LA7000 still, and they sound nothing like a closed can.  When I compared them to my K1000, they had almost the same mids and highs, but with significantly better bass control, speed, detail and impact.  While the K1000 soundstage was bigger, the instrument placement was not as precise as with the LA7000.  The K1000 are gone but the LA7000 are still here.

post #50 of 65
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I really do love my LA7000 still, and they sound nothing like a closed can.  When I compared them to my K1000, they had almost the same mids and highs, but with significantly better bass control, speed, detail and impact.  While the K1000 soundstage was bigger, the instrument placement was not as precise as with the LA7000.  The K1000 are gone but the LA7000 are still here.

 

So they are your best cans till date ? What about GS1000,RS1i and PS1000 compared to LA7k ?

post #51 of 65

I will prob go for recabled balanced lcd-2 instead of LCD-2 

post #52 of 65
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So they are your best cans till date ? What about GS1000,RS1i and PS1000 compared to LA7k ?


Not Larry, but I'll chime in here anyway. If money is an issue, I'd seriously consider the LA2000s as an alternative. They are by most folks' reckoning very close to the 7ks, and I like mine so much that I canceled my order for T1s. I prefer them to my RS1s for everything but guitar-based rock and recordings with heavily saturated bass, which sometimes make the LA's usually tightly controlled bass sound more like their unmodded little brothers.

 

Of course, if you're talking PS1000s, then maybe money isn't an issue.

 

Hope that helps some...

post #53 of 65
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So they are your best cans till date ? What about GS1000,RS1i and PS1000 compared to LA7k ?


No, I wouldn't say they are my best cans.  I prefer the openness, speed and transparency of my HD800 on the ZDT amp, and my HE60 or O2 Mk1 on the Woo WES a little more.  But the LA7000 could keep me very happy if they were my only hi-end full-size can.  In fact, I prefer the LA7000 with rock music or loud music (O2 Mk1 also good with that).  

 

On the second question - I would take the LA7000 over any Grado except a HP-1000 with Equinox cable, or a PS-1 with Silver Dragon cable.  If It was a choice between a stock D7000 or the stock RS-1 I might call it a tie, but the RS-1 would win if I could re-cable them.  In my case I preferred the HE-5 and HE-5 LE to my re-cabled RS-1 (sold them last Xmas).  I don't like the GS-1000 at all, and the PS-1000 were an improvement over the GS-1 but not as good as the PS-1 or re-cabled HP-1000 (yes, I did compare them at CanJam 09).

 

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Not Larry, but I'll chime in here anyway. If money is an issue, I'd seriously consider the LA2000s as an alternative. They are by most folks' reckoning very close to the 7ks, and I like mine so much that I canceled my order for T1s. I prefer them to my RS1s for everything but guitar-based rock and recordings with heavily saturated bass, which sometimes make the LA's usually tightly controlled bass sound more like their unmodded little brothers.

 

Of course, if you're talking PS1000s, then maybe money isn't an issue.

 

Hope that helps some...


My D2K had APS V2 cable instead of Jenna labs, LA wood cups, and stuffed pads (later the J$ pads) but no internal dampening - so they would not sound just like an LA2000.  Mine were only slightly better than the stock D7000 which have better drivers.  The LA2000 might have solved all my concerns with my D2000, and they could be even better; but once you have the full LA2000 they are as good as they ever be and I don't think they will ever catch up to the LA7000.  

 

If he starts with the D7000 he'd have nice sounding cans now, that could be taken to new heights that rise above the LA2000 later.  If he can never spend the additional money over time to upgrade the D7000 to an LA7000, then the LA2000 might be a better option.  But then that brings me back to the HE-5 LE which are cheaper than LA2000 and come very close to but just below the LA7000.

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No, I wouldn't say they are my best cans.  I prefer the openness, speed and transparency of my HD800 on the ZDT amp, and my HE60 or O2 Mk1 on the Woo WES a little more.  But the LA7000 could keep me very happy if they were my only hi-end full-size can.  In fact, I prefer the LA7000 with rock music or loud music (O2 Mk1 also good with that).  

 

On the second question - I would take the LA7000 over any Grado except a HP-1000 with Equinox cable, or a PS-1 with Silver Dragon cable.  If It was a choice between a stock D7000 or the stock RS-1 I might call it a tie, but the RS-1 would win if I could re-cable them.  In my case I preferred the HE-5 and HE-5 LE to my re-cabled RS-1 (sold them last Xmas).  I don't like the GS-1000 at all, and the PS-1000 were an improvement over the GS-1 but not as good as the PS-1 or re-cabled HP-1000 (yes, I did compare them at CanJam 09).

 


My D2K had APS V2 cable instead of Jenna labs, LA wood cups, and stuffed pads (later the J$ pads) but no internal dampening - so they would not sound just like an LA2000.  Mine were only slightly better than the stock D7000 which have better drivers.  The LA2000 might have solved all my concerns with my D2000, and they could be even better; but once you have the full LA2000 they are as good as they ever be and I don't think they will ever catch up to the LA7000.  

 

If he starts with the D7000 he'd have nice sounding cans now, that could be taken to new heights that rise above the LA2000 later.  If he can never spend the additional money over time to upgrade the D7000 to an LA7000, then the LA2000 might be a better option.  But then that brings me back to the HE-5 LE which are cheaper than LA2000 and come very close to but just below the LA7000.

 

Thanks for comparing them. So if i want to use as stock i should probably go with either HE-5 LE or D7k  as i want FUN,ENGAGING can. I hope either of them has toe tapping factor ?
 


Edited by richbass - 6/27/10 at 4:42am
post #55 of 65
Thread Starter 

They are both very enjoyable and engaging stock, and both can be improved with cables and mods.  

 

I would say the HE-5 LE falls between the stock D7000 and the LA7000, based on (1) how close it comes to my LA7000 and (2) how much I know the LA7000 is above the stock D7000 - but I haven't had a stock D7000 on hand to compare to the HE-5 LE.  

 

You should also see what Skylab thinks of the D7000 vs HE-5 LE since he has both right now.

post #56 of 65
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They are both very enjoyable and engaging stock, and both can be improved with cables and mods.  

 

I would say the HE-5 LE falls between the stock D7000 and the LA7000, based on (1) how close it comes to my LA7000 and (2) how much I know the LA7000 is above the stock D7000 - but I haven't had a stock D7000 on hand to compare to the HE-5 LE.  

 

You should also see what Skylab thinks of the D7000 vs HE-5 LE since he has both right now.

 

Thanks. I am unable to find the comparison of skylab. Could you please link me to it ?
 

post #57 of 65

The stock D7000 combined with JR Media crossfeed will probably trounce all over the LA7000 in terms of soundstage and imaging.

 

I hear all sorts of errors that I thought was being introduced by the crossfeed, but after hearing these errors and switching of the xfeed - the error could still be detected but was never in consciously picked up.  The detail retrieval is second to none.  Sounstaging IMHO with D7000 and JR Xfeed blows the HD800 clean out of the water.


Edited by SP Wild - 6/27/10 at 11:28pm
post #58 of 65
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Thanks. I am unable to find the comparison of skylab. Could you please link me to it ?
 


I don't have a specific post I'm thinking of, sorry.  Maybe you could search for posts by Skylab with the word "D7000" or "HE-5 LE" in them, or PM him?

post #59 of 65

Very informative thread, thanks Larry.

 

I'm using a month old, currently stock D7000 as part of my review of the HifiMan Hm-801 vs RWA iMod/Protector comparison, as one of the headphones.  The stock amp GanQi opamp module drives the D7K nicely, but at least from that source I find the TWagged JH16Pro to be more closely resembling the overall sound characteristics of the D7K than the TWagged JH13 Pro.

 

Nevertheless the MarkL mod sounds interesting, so I will have it done once this review is completed.

 

post #60 of 65

Been looking at this and the HD800's, it is a closed vs open and more than likely in my situation closed will win the day but in terms of sound properties both have desirable features so it kind of makes it hard for me to choose in my head.

 

LA7000 is closed, is colored in a way that its more an upgrade to my DT770's.

HD800 outputs as close to 1:1 as your audio chain will allow and might sound more speaker like.

 

Choices choices,  wish I had a full setup to test either out on. closest I have is a b&h,  And to be quite honest as with most retail setups it is not the best.

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