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post #16 of 29
8/4/09 at 3:39am
UI? Aesthetics of the iPod? :P
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post #17 of 29
8/4/09 at 5:07am
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Can I assume you don't have an iMod yet, if you're asking for an amp? I see no reason whatsoever to get an amped iMod over the HM-801 player. None.
I've pre-ordered the HM-801. But the delayed reviews of the HM-801, its small capacities (32GB at most per SD card currently) and not able to play gapless music files could be some of the obstacles IMHO.
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post #18 of 29
8/4/09 at 9:57am
Oh yes there is reasons. The first hifiman is probably not going to be amazingly good and will take time to be refined into a respectable music player. A lot of people don't feel like walking around with a bunch of cards and have no gapless playback.
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post #19 of 29
8/4/09 at 1:37pm
As of today and what is available I would go with the P-51!!
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post #20 of 29
8/4/09 at 2:08pm
Yeah from what I have seen if you don't want to wait head for the p-51 and then the shadow whenever that comes out which will be relatively similar but smaller and has the digital pot for channel balance and whatnot.
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post #21 of 29
8/4/09 at 2:55pm
Hi Brad,

I see from your signature that you use the iphone 3Gs with you JH13's

Would you be able (and willing) to give us a critical evaluation of the 3Gs as a source/DAC/amp as compared to your other systems? Where does it fall short and by how much--other than storage capacity? HPA has spoken favorablely about the 3Gs and it would certainly be less to lug than and iRiver iHP120/D10 combo. The question is how much do you sacrifice for the convenince of the 3Gs.

TIA, George
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post #22 of 29
8/4/09 at 3:29pm
I have to be completely honest the 3gs is one of the best standalone daps I have heard if not the best. The cirrus dac chip in it is easily as good as the one that was in the ipod video. The iphone pairs wonderfully with the jh-13's with really tight bass luscious mids and sparkling highs. Outside of storage capacity there is not a lot to attack about it. The addition of a amp helps but not a whole ton that would make me want to carry it on the go. If you were looking to use it as a true portable source I would absolutely recommend it. If there is anything in specific that you are curious about such as soundstage let me know and I can answer any questions.
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post #23 of 29
8/4/09 at 3:44pm
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UI? Aesthetics of the iPod? :P
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I've pre-ordered the HM-801. But the delayed reviews of the HM-801, its small capacities (32GB at most per SD card currently) and not able to play gapless music files could be some of the obstacles IMHO.
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Oh yes there is reasons. The first hifiman is probably not going to be amazingly good and will take time to be refined into a respectable music player. A lot of people don't feel like walking around with a bunch of cards and have no gapless playback.
The gapless playback maybe... But all other issues are insignificant compared to the advantage of not having a retarded LOD/rubber band bundle. The DAC is always the weakest link in any iPod-based system; you're not gonna be saying that about the Hifiman. And let's face it: IEMs don't need much in the way of amplification. If someone is gonna drop the money for JH13s, why not go for ultimate sound quality? Source first, guys.
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post #24 of 29
8/4/09 at 4:09pm
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I have to be completely honest the 3gs is one of the best standalone daps I have heard if not the best. The cirrus dac chip in it is easily as good as the one that was in the ipod video. The iphone pairs wonderfully with the jh-13's with really tight bass luscious mids and sparkling highs. Outside of storage capacity there is not a lot to attack about it. The addition of a amp helps but not a whole ton that would make me want to carry it on the go. If you were looking to use it as a true portable source I would absolutely recommend it. If there is anything in specific that you are curious about such as soundstage let me know and I can answer any questions.
Could you please state a one or two line comparison when listening to 3Gs and iMod (Both amped) using P-51 driving JH-13s?

Cheers
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post #25 of 29
8/4/09 at 4:38pm
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I have to be completely honest the 3gs is one of the best standalone daps I have heard if not the best. The cirrus dac chip in it is easily as good as the one that was in the ipod video. The iphone pairs wonderfully with the jh-13's with really tight bass luscious mids and sparkling highs. Outside of storage capacity there is not a lot to attack about it. The addition of a amp helps but not a whole ton that would make me want to carry it on the go. If you were looking to use it as a true portable source I would absolutely recommend it. If there is anything in specific that you are curious about such as soundstage let me know and I can answer any questions.
Thank you. That is a very strong recommendation--sure wish the damn thing played Flac and had an SD slot. Conversion to Apl lossless would be a pain but I think it can be a batch job for dbamp?????

Now the $64,000 question: how good is the equilizer in the 3Gs? I have a high frequency hearing loss and need to start bumping up the sound at 3500hz. The iriver with rockbox is said to be an excellent equilizer and that would be the alternative? I haven't asked this on the JH13 appreciation thread but I think the 13Pro's could handle some HF equilization. I currently use K1000's or speakers with hearing aids, but that only goes out to 9000 hz before the aids crap out.

TIA, George

George
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post #26 of 29
8/4/09 at 6:12pm
I think if you make a custom one in itunes then load it you will be fine but I don't personally believe in eq'ing I can make comparisons of that vkvedam tonight after I do some listening right now I just rockboxed the imod and now I am throwing my music down onto it.
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post #27 of 29
8/4/09 at 7:02pm
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The gapless playback maybe... But all other issues are insignificant compared to the advantage of not having a retarded LOD/rubber band bundle. The DAC is always the weakest link in any iPod-based system; you're not gonna be saying that about the Hifiman. And let's face it: IEMs don't need much in the way of amplification. If someone is gonna drop the money for JH13s, why not go for ultimate sound quality? Source first, guys.
You can use a hippocase which basically removes the "retarted" stack bundle but you forget to realize on the hifiman you are limited in what applications you can use it for in the actual amp module. The hifiman's dac is the limitation in the device as well it is not using the 1704u-k module which is proven to be a better chip which everyone else has gone to.....
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post #28 of 29
8/4/09 at 8:30pm
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I can make comparisons of that vkvedam tonight after I do some listening right now I just rockboxed the imod and now I am throwing my music down onto it.
Thanks very much. Shall be waiting for your valuable impressions.
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post #29 of 29
8/5/09 at 2:13am
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You can use a hippocase which basically removes the "retarted" stack bundle but you forget to realize on the hifiman you are limited in what applications you can use it for in the actual amp module. The hifiman's dac is the limitation in the device as well it is not using the 1704u-k module which is proven to be a better chip which everyone else has gone to.....
Pardon? Using a 1704 that's not a U-K makes it worse than an iPod? Or every other DAP is using a 1704U-K? If that's the case, then dang, I must be really really out of the DAP loop...

Anyways, if you don't like the built-in amp, you can just buy another amp and stack em like an iMod. Not sure you can hippocase that combo, though.
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