Also consistent with experience--every time anyone says anything positive about an Extreme here, someone pops in and reminds us there were build issues; funny, as if this was not already well established, especially in this thread. Never mind the positive comments are on certified units. It's like there is a posse watching. Yea, Supreme beings are watching ready to smite any happy camper, or remind the forgetful, least we somehow can forget. Once in a blue moon, a picture of a relatively minor issue appears, followed by maybe a half dozen of the faithful chiming OMG, OMG, OMG--what a monster HE was. Like clockwork--a broken alarm clock that won't shut off.