Originally Posted by Dane
IMO the debate is fueled by two equally puzzling views (stereotyped):
1. Objective subjectivists. These are people who call themselves subjectivists and hear differences which ought not be there from a technical point of view, but nevertheless insist that these differences must be caused by some unspecified yet-to-be-discovered objective property of the equipment. Suggesting that the differences they hear might be imagined is generally taken as an insult.
2. Ultra objectivists. These are people who say that since no differences can be measured or detected by humans in blind tests you are wasting your money in buying expensive gear. The fact that many people do have a different experience with different equipment is ignored or viewed as irrelevant.
Let me disagree with one thing you wrote on that "ultra objectivists" group. The fact that different people have a different experience with different equipment is not ignored. The experience is analyzed, we search for any flaw on the test that could lead to conclusions different from what measurements say, and when we find something is not correct, then we say it is irrelevant, and it is similar to giving a subjective opinion. If the test subject is biased in his test to a certain degree, then the test becomes invalid.
I have read loads of impressions when people compared two or more setups that could explain their listening to "better SQ" when it might actually (and most likely) be louder, or pricier,... That is also the reason of getting back to DBT, because so far it is the most reliable method we have (apart from what measurements can give us).
I do not consider myself part of that "ultra objectivist" group; I would like to read some article that really explained why A equipment sounds better than B, when they measure the same in the average human FR. But I see it so far away that I am starting to forget about the possibility of that happening soon.
Then if you check the Pro world, you can see almost no debates about cables. I still think that Gregorio's leaving was not good, because he talked from that "experience believers" rate so highly.
I am still open minded to some kind of reliable test giving some kind of explanation to the "cable differences", but again I don't really see it coming.