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btw is the crossfeed function on the phonitor something which makes the amp 'more enjoyable' to the ear? Or is it more a technical device for engineers? 

As an audiophile only I was curious. 

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btw is the crossfeed function on the phonitor something which makes the amp 'more enjoyable' to the ear? Or is it more a technical device for engineers? 

As an audiophile only I was curious. 


Definitely both. It is also more enjoyable when you listen to old records  from the 70s and back, example would be Led Zeppelin. Jimmy Page's guitars are hard panned 180 degrees to the left or right in some songs, and to be honest that annoys me when I listen to it with the HD800s for example. The crossfeed changes this and you can adjust the guitar's panning to 100 degrees which a lot more enjoyable for me. As for mixing, I have mixed with the crossfeed and I feel it translates well to speakers.

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yeah for 1000 quid its an amazing feature. Jude raved about it in the headfi tv ep he did. I may look into a second hand 

phonitor at some point. Looks like a sports car dash too :) 

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yeah for 1000 quid its an amazing feature. Jude raved about it in the headfi tv ep he did. I may look into a second hand 

phonitor at some point. Looks like a sports car dash too :) 


No doubt, the front display of the Phonitor is a beauty and I think that nothing even comes close to it.

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No doubt, the front display of the Phonitor is a beauty and I think that nothing even comes close to it.

 

The beauty of the beast...

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The beauty of the beast...


+1.

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The beauty of the beast...

+2

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When I read that SPL made the amps for 600ohms (as its an 'industry standard') I looked at who makes 600ohm phones..and only AKG and Beyer came up. Is this 

really the case? What is the AKG competitor to the T1 btw?? 

 

Also, when I asked before about the phonitor's crossfeed circuits, if used purely as an audiophile amp, are they worth it? I know it was agreed that it adds pleasure 

to listening but is it worth the extra 600 bucks over the auditor? They have the exact same amp parts I read. Does changing the angle of the audio signal at the ear

create a more realistic sound stage? That would be cool if so. 

 

Dan 

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As far as I know AKGs are the most common headphones used in studios.
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"Is it worth it?"

 

I know this sounds like a cop out, but it all depends. If you've been aware of the fixed speaker angles, centering, and crossfeed levels in recordings and wished you could somehow manipulate them, then it might be worth it. With the Phonitor, it's not just a single all-or-nothing crossfeed switch but varying levels of crossfeed. And it doesn't stop there. You can also manipulate speaker angles. And it doesn't end there either. You can futz with the centering of the stereo image in your head. And still it doesn't end there. There are numerous other switches to tinker with SQ.

 

Is it worth it?

 

If tinkering and experimenting appeals to you, then maybe. If you simply want the default (as recorded by engineers) SQ, then it may not be.

 

It also depends on your goals. If you tend to be analytical, prize accuracy over color, and want to get inside your recordings, then maybe. If you could care less about the inner workings and just want warmth and musicality, then maybe not. 

 

For example, many who just want their amp to make all their recordings sound good won't hear the Phonitor difference simply because they're not looking for it. For these people, the extra bucks may not be worth it.

 

Some people look at a car and see a car. It's something to take them from point A to point B. Others look at a car and automatically want to take it apart to see how it's put together and to clean or upgrade the parts to improve overall performance. If you're the latter type, maybe.

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Also please remember that the crossfeed feature was targeted at audio/mixing engineers in a studio workplace, especially for mixing when speakers are not available.

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What is the AKG competitor to the T1 ?? 

 

Dan 

 

The K-702 is the AKG competitor to the T1, here is more info: http://www.head-fi.org/t/595522/akg-k702-vs-beyerdynamic-t1-in-the-studio

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Thanks for advice! Yeah I think in the medium term im set to get T1 phones, then maybe look at better DAC. New amp is prob 

not worth it  for my purposes as you say..but god the phonitor is cool looking :) 

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Hey,

 

The K702 wouldn't be a competitor. I'd say either the K501 or K1000 would be a competitor. The K702 isn't all it's cracked up to be. As great as it is, it's not going to be a competitor. The K501 sounds somewhat similar to the T1 and IMO is a much better headphone than what the K702 is. To me the K702 sounds "fake" with a forced neutrality. For studio use I recommend the KRK KNS-8400, you should try it sometime. It sounds awesome on the Auditor, so I think you'll enjoy it for monitoring.

 

daniel_hokkaido, I'd recommend looking into a K501. The K702 would not be my recommendation. It's that all capable of a headphone. I mean it's capable, but not so much so it can be considered as an option if you are looking into the T1. To me the K702 is on par with a DT770, not even near what the DT880 does/offers.

 

I've grown to dislike the K702 somewhat as it sounds wonky to me ears now. It has some odd colorations and resonances that make it sound like plastic. I used to be in love with my K701/K702 but now I pretty much avoid them. Granted the T1 has resonance issues with the inner cup, but felt tames that 100%. Just my $.2 guys. No flaming intended.

 

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The K-702 is the AKG competitor to the T1, here is more info: http://www.head-fi.org/t/595522/akg-k702-vs-beyerdynamic-t1-in-the-studio


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Also, when I asked before about the phonitor's crossfeed circuits, if used purely as an audiophile amp, are they worth it? I know it was agreed that it adds pleasure 

to listening but is it worth the extra 600 bucks over the auditor? They have the exact same amp parts I read. Does changing the angle of the audio signal at the ear

create a more realistic sound stage? That would be cool if so. 

 

Dan 

 

The cheapest way to experience crossfeed is to plug your headphone to a Hometheatre receiver, switch between Stereo and then DTS or 5.1 (or something).

At least when I use for watching movie, I prefer 5.1 setting 90% of the time. 

It brings the scene in front of you, close to Cinema experience while Stereo is more Left and Right experience.

I can't say much for music as my receiver is not audiophile enough so I never listen music from them. 

For now, I am still happy with my 2 channel headphone amp, I never try a good crossfeed like Phonitor at home so I can't comment much on this.

 

Worth it? try with receiver first see if it worth $600 for you.

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