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post #31 of 71
7/30/09 at 7:05am
Sized Up: HM-801 vs ipod classic
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post #32 of 71
7/30/09 at 9:03am
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Most interesting.

I didn't enjoy my X5L that much. The sound signature was a too thick, syrupy, and excessively warm for my tastes. I am pleased to know that the HM-801 offers better instrument separation and (I'm extrapolating here) airiness. I felt those were two areas the X5L was also lacking in.
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post #33 of 71
7/30/09 at 9:55am
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Whoa...
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post #34 of 71
7/30/09 at 10:25am
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Whoa...
Hmmm...This thing is........HUGE!
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post #35 of 71
7/31/09 at 3:21am
Another so-called audiophile product that is totally unmusical and useless: it doesn't support gapless playback. For those of us that listen a lot to gapless albums, listening to non-gapless players is quite frustrating. The developers didn't even know what gapless meant.
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post #36 of 71
7/31/09 at 8:30am
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Keep in mind that gapless playback is something that is governed by software, not hardware, so it's feasible that this device might include gapless in a future firmware or operating system update.
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post #37 of 71
7/31/09 at 9:23am
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Keep in mind that gapless playback is something that is governed by software, not hardware, so it's feasible that this device might include gapless in a future firmware or operating system update.
I knew that, but how likely is it that they will implement it when they don't have a clue what it means. No manufacturer today seems to make a priority to this. It is probably up to us consumers to demand it - but unfortunately most people don't seem to care.

Currently I think only iPods supports gapless among the players that are available internationally. Zunes can't be bought outside the US or Canada. The other alternative, a Windows Mobile phone with a software called PhantasmX, also has export restrictions outside the US. It is a brilliant program that I bought before the export restrictions came last year, but the limitation is in the hardware of your phone.
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post #38 of 71
7/31/09 at 9:51am
Whilst i would rather read your 9 posts of well founded reason gammelkaill than some teenager's rant about how good this item may or not be so good. They may have 1000+ posts since joining in May of this year, but i think your remarks of 'unmusical' and 'useless' are a little harsh. Perhaps you could explain your reasoning with a little more back up from experienced listeners opinions, rather than that of someone who has a biased view that we can can achieve musical bliss from a mobile 'phone.
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post #39 of 71
7/31/09 at 11:59am
the hifiman apparently DOES have gapless support.. Nankai tried measuring the time between one song and another and found it to be less then 0.2sec
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post #40 of 71
7/31/09 at 12:23pm
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the hifiman apparently DOES have gapless support.. Nankai tried measuring the time between one song and another and found it to be less then 0.2sec
0.2 seconds is still a gap. Therefore it isn't gapless.
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post #41 of 71
7/31/09 at 1:24pm
But 0.2 seconds is clearly audible, no? Not that I'm too bothered by this issue..
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post #42 of 71
7/31/09 at 1:48pm
Less then being the key word though
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post #43 of 71
7/31/09 at 3:44pm
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Whilst i would rather read your 9 posts of well founded reason gammelkaill than some teenager's rant about how good this item may or not be so good. They may have 1000+ posts since joining in May of this year, but i think your remarks of 'unmusical' and 'useless' are a little harsh. Perhaps you could explain your reasoning with a little more back up from experienced listeners opinions, rather than that of someone who has a biased view that we can can achieve musical bliss from a mobile 'phone.
I used the words "unmusical" and "useless", because for me it is. I have so many gapless albums that I find it a big problem. One example is an album that has around 80 short tracks, but in reality is three long continous pieces. So having a gap every half to one minute can be very annoying, even if it is only 0.2 sec. It is clearly audible.

Lets say you want to buy a painting, and then you discover that it has been torn to pieces and glued back together again. And the salesman tells you "but it has been glued together very nicely, you can hardly see the gaps...". Would you accept that?

Regarding the WM phone software I was talking about, it is actually an audiophile product in my opinion. The audio circuits of for example a Dell Axim pocket PC is said to be exactly the same hardware as in iPods. And then this little software makes wonders to improve on that. It has a well working xfeed effect that you normally find only in expensive headphone amps. It has parametric EQ, reverb effects, plus controls to avoid clipping that works in concunction with the EQ and reverb.
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post #44 of 71
7/31/09 at 4:27pm
What do you mean by "unmusical"? Explaining this would probably help sort out the differences we're experiencing. Because sound-wise, you obviously couldn't tell..

But yeah, I have one album with 99 songs on it too. Some as short as 3 seconds. So that would obviously be unlistenable on this piece of equipement..
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post #45 of 71
7/31/09 at 4:37pm
Can anyone who has listened to the HM-801 compare it to the Pico DAC/amp? I'm wondering how those two would stack up. I'm considering getting a JH13 and I would probably end up getting one of these two if I did get the Jerry Harveys.
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