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post #16 of 25
1/22/10 at 7:26am
"If burn in is really real...."

You waste 200 hours on something you don't actually think is real?

What do you do for those eight and a half days while you're waiting?

200 hours at 4 hours listening a day is 50 days. The better part of two months. I find it difficult to believe that peoples memories of new out of the box sound compared to two months later are so visceral and obvious, especially accounting for the effects of "new toy syndrome" and the acclimatisation to an initially alien sound character.

Most people wont be able to tell you how many squares of loo roll they used last time they went to the toilet, or what they had for lunch yesterday, nevermind something like burn in trends over rediculous periods of time.

There are other explanations behind the "culture of burn in" on this website beyond the one that exists on the surface. But that's not for this thread.
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post #17 of 25
1/22/10 at 7:29am
I rarely ever buy new, so it doesn't matter. I buy almost everything used anyway. Plus, I have multiple headphones etc so I use them while I am burning in the other items. I leave my audio equipment on from when i wake up until I go to sleep. So about 14-16 hours a day. I listen to music about 5 hours a day while I am at the computer. I like to have piece of mind, so I burn in anyway, doesn't bother me as I am kept well occupied by other tasks I do. It's school holidays right now, I have plenty of time on my hands.
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post #18 of 25
1/22/10 at 1:55pm
cable burn in is very real, i used 1.21 jiggawatts to condition my cables and they all melted, talk about burn in.
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post #19 of 25
1/22/10 at 1:59pm
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Originally Posted by googleborg View Post
cable burn in is very real, i used 1.21 jiggawatts to condition my cables and they all melted, talk about burn in.
you shoulda gotten NOS cables from 1955
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post #20 of 25
1/22/10 at 3:08pm
I dropped a cable on a grill once and the insulation and shielding fused with the conductor. Sounded better afterwards, though. Now that's burn-in.
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post #21 of 25
1/22/10 at 3:18pm
cables need cold-in (cryo?), so put them in a fridge
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post #22 of 25
1/22/10 at 3:20pm
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Originally Posted by Menisk View Post

Your hearing and perception of sound changes daily. I have days where my rig sounds amazing to me and days where it sounds flat and lifeless. It's quite possible that it's just your hearing naturally fluctuating. There is nothing that will change in a cable to make it sound different when more current has been put through it. It's just a whole bunch of atoms stuck together with free valance electrons. Moving the electrons around doesn't change anything.
Absolutely correct.

USG
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post #23 of 25
2/21/10 at 8:38am
well with regards to cable burn in, it could be the change in electrical conductivity of the cable as it oxidizes over time.

just yesterday, a comparison using my old 1 year old copper cyro cable and a friends 2 day old copper cyro yielded different sounds. for the old cable, the bass is bloated and had less detail than the new one.

after doing a blind test with another assistant at the shop, he could hear the difference between the 2 cables. (blind test was done with his back turned, and we did not tell him that we changed anything, just asked him if he thought the 2 different samples sounded different) this was using the exact same iems, source and amp, at the same volume setting.

well, he came to the same conclusion as us, that for the old cable, the bass is bloated and had less detail than the new one.

i guess over time, its more of the oxidation of the metal affecting conductivity?

well, yesterday i just got a new bigonnoise.com singularity gold cable, and the signal wire is made up of nanocarbon, a non metal, which will not oxidize. sooo... i wonder if there will be a difference in future? haha
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post #24 of 25
2/21/10 at 1:29pm
Couldn't a capped lod be influenced by burn-in?
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post #25 of 25
2/21/10 at 9:38pm
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Originally Posted by hiphop137 View Post
well with regards to cable burn in, it could be the change in electrical conductivity of the cable as it oxidizes over time.

just yesterday, a comparison using my old 1 year old copper cyro cable and a friends 2 day old copper cyro yielded different sounds. for the old cable, the bass is bloated and had less detail than the new one.

after doing a blind test with another assistant at the shop, he could hear the difference between the 2 cables. (blind test was done with his back turned, and we did not tell him that we changed anything, just asked him if he thought the 2 different samples sounded different) this was using the exact same iems, source and amp, at the same volume setting.

well, he came to the same conclusion as us, that for the old cable, the bass is bloated and had less detail than the new one.

i guess over time, its more of the oxidation of the metal affecting conductivity?

well, yesterday i just got a new bigonnoise.com singularity gold cable, and the signal wire is made up of nanocarbon, a non metal, which will not oxidize. sooo... i wonder if there will be a difference in future? haha
Assuming that you were able to conduct a valid blind test, and not withstanding that cryo is a crock and cables don't burn in, you are listening to two different cables, made years apart, with no knowledge of the materials or care used at the time of their respective constructions. This does not lend itself to any extrapolation other than the less detailed cable was poorly made and as such, never sounded any better.

USG
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