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post #91 of 691
9/6/09 at 6:37pm
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Originally Posted by SoFGR View Post
very nice posts slim.a but may i ask something kinda irrelevant ? why don't you use media monkey + otachan instead of foobar ? have you done an A/B comparison before ? if yes then what is your take ? same question applies to anyone who has tried both
Well I have done some experiments between media players including media monkey with otachan, and the one I prefered most in my system was foobar 0.8.3 with otachan asio 0.51.7.
However, I have to say that differences were more apparent when I was using the emu 0404 usb as a transport. the emu was very sensitve to any set-up change (media player, asio version, usb cable). When I swithched to the Musiland Monitor 01 usd, the changes between those variables were more subtle. Maybe because the Musiland uses async protocol for usb transfer it is less (but still) affected by jitter from the computer.
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post #92 of 691
9/6/09 at 6:42pm
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Update about mode B (df1704)

I think I was too quick posting comments about the mode B. After, about 40 hours of burn-in, the sound quality improved considerably. I have rarely noticed such a change in a component after burn-in. The soundstage opened up and the general resolution increased. The balance of sound is still focused in the high frequencies but I will give it at least another 100 hours of burn-in before making conclusions about how it is performing.
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post #93 of 691
9/6/09 at 6:46pm
Glad you had the patience to keep trying mode B, I never gave it more than ~20 hours of burn-in and my initial observations were extremely similar to yours (even parts I didn't mention). Now I won't be afraid to go mode B when I eventually get 24/96 albums.
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post #94 of 691
9/7/09 at 4:31pm
We had some discussion at our local hifi forum about the white stickers glued under the hood of the Compass (and I have them on my DAC19Mk3 also). Someone wrote that they're only there because of the shipping, to keep things at their place but that's difficult to believe. They don't even touch the cover plate. Everything is firmly together so I can't understand why the stickers are there.

Check the picture to see what I mean. The white stickers are on the top left corner of the picture (most obviously). They have quite a sticky glue when I tried to rip them off so I let them be. If I'd rip them off they'd leave some nasty glue residue on the circuit board. I wouldn't want to scratch off anything from the circuit board. I already e-mailed Kingwa about the subject.



Other owners of DAC19Mk3, did you have the white stickers glued there?
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post #95 of 691
9/7/09 at 4:43pm
Mine has it. It's used for the voltage setting (110-120v or 220-240v).

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post #96 of 691
9/7/09 at 4:49pm
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Originally Posted by h.rav View Post
Mine has it. It's used for the voltage setting (110-120v or 220-240v).
Used how? Is it just to cover the spot so people can't change the voltage by themselves? Can it be removed?
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post #97 of 691
9/7/09 at 4:51pm
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Originally Posted by Patu View Post
We had some discussion at our local hifi forum about the white stickers glued under the hood of the Compass (and I have them on my DAC19Mk3 also). Someone wrote that they're only there because of the shipping, to keep things at their place but that's difficult to believe. They don't even touch the cover plate. Everything is firmly together so I can't understand why the stickers are there.

Check the picture to see what I mean. The white stickers are on the top left corner of the picture (most obviously). They have quite a sticky glue when I tried to rip them off so I let them be. If I'd rip them off they'd leave some nasty glue residue on the circuit board. I wouldn't want to scratch off anything from the circuit board. I already e-mailed Kingwa about the subject.



Other owners of DAC19Mk3, did you have the white stickers glued there?
Why do you care? It's the inside!!??
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post #98 of 691
9/7/09 at 4:53pm
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Originally Posted by tim3320070 View Post
Why do you care? It's the inside!!??
Well I didn't even think about it before they started to discuss about the stickers at our local forum.

In Compass the stickers are glued on the top plate and they actually do hold some components at the place during shipment etc.

It doesn't really bother me... I guess.
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post #99 of 691
9/7/09 at 4:55pm
Look on the positive- it makes it unique, less mass market-like.
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post #100 of 691
9/7/09 at 5:21pm
I have the same sticker, probably to deter people from getting ideas about making a switch which according to Kingwa can lower the sound quality. Plus it increases the likelihood of it blowing up from accidental switching.
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post #101 of 691
9/7/09 at 6:19pm
Mine has it, I don't see what the big deal is? It's probably just there so they know if you tampered with anything you shouldn't have ("Oh oops! My DAC broke after plugging it into the wrong mains voltage") just like the glue on most of the screw heads on the inside.
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post #102 of 691
9/7/09 at 6:52pm
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Originally Posted by Patu View Post
Used how? Is it just to cover the spot so people can't change the voltage by themselves? Can it be removed?
Oops sorry, yep that's what I meant. I can remove mine easily, but I would just let them stick as it is if you don't need to change the voltage.
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post #103 of 691
9/10/09 at 7:47am
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Mode B (DF1704) after 120 hours+ of burn-in

Mode B after 120 hours + of Burn-in :
First of all, I feel really stupid giving my first comment about only 10 hours of listening. The module has greatly improved with burn-in.

Transparency :
The resolution/definition is about the same between the 2 modes.
On normal CDs the mode B is ahead.
On HDCD recordings, Mode A is slightly better (as expected).
24/96 recordings on mode B are absolutely fantastic with great resolution.
Overall, the perceived transparency is better through Mode B.

Timbre :
Now that I had time to listen to both modes, I find Mode A to be the more colored with a "tube like" sound.
Mode B is what can be described as "monitor like" but not in a bad way. There is more differenciation between sounds.
Overall the sound is clearer than mode B, with a lot more energy in the high frequencies while retaining a solid foundation in the bass.

Soundstage :
Before burn-in, I found that the soundstage was smaller and less defined than with mode A.
But after 120hours+ of burn-in, I feel that it is one of the biggest strengths of mode B. It is big, deep and very well defined. It is so good, that in many recordings, I don't feel like I am listening through headphones.

Dynamics :
Mode B seems louder than Mode A and also more dynamic with better micro and macro dynamics swings.
Mode B also seems to have faster transients, without being dry. It is very quick to respond throughout the whole sound spectrum.
Also, at high volume levels, there seems to be less compression in the bass.

Overall:
I highly recommend to anyone buying the DAC-19mk3 to try both modes (A and B). They give different "flavors" of sound like swapping opamps in other dacs.
In my system, I prefer mode B because it has more extended highs, better definition and better dynamics than with mode A. In comparison, the mode A sounds muffled with a slight euphonic coloration.
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post #104 of 691
9/10/09 at 7:56am

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post #105 of 691
9/10/09 at 7:59am
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Blue Jeans Digital Cable - Belden 1694A 18 ft.

I read on the Ref1 thread IpodPj discussing how good was the BJ Belden 1694A 18 ft. long, so out of curiosity I ordered one since it costs only $24.

Well, I was very surprised when I got mine because it outperformed my reference BNC to BNC cable (the HC Sobek straight out of the box.
I had previously settled on the Sobek Cable because it outperformed many spdif cables I tried in my system (Canare, Belkin, dh-labs, ...).

The sound is more transparent than my previous reference cable, and with a better soundstage. (This was noticed while using the Musiland 01 usd. ). It is a true audiophile bargain.
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