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Originally Posted by devouringone3 View Post

 

Sure. Basically, I'm listening to my HP-1000 with the HPA amplifier all the time, and I am wondering how much better can this headphone becomes when using a more recent, better and more powerful headphone amplifier. Have you compared the Grado HPA against bigger solid state amplifiers like the popular models often spoken about on Head-Fi? Very little has been said about the HPA-1-2 on Head-Fi.

 

And I'm not so concerned about synergy nor I'm looking for "the best amp" for one headphone in particular, but I'm very curious to know if the HP-1000 benefits a lot from amplification. I'm wondering how close to HP-1000's maximum potential I am, with a HPA-1, and how much better would a beefier, costlier solid state amplifier would make it.

These have been covered in a different thread recently (too lazy to look for it now).

I only use the HPA-1/2 and upgraded Melos Sha- Gold for my HP1000- the two amps that were made for this specific headphone. How do you like your HP2 with the HPA-1?


Edited by pcf - 6/6/12 at 6:06pm

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These have been covered in a different thread recently (too lazy to look for it now).

I only use the HPA-1/2 and upgraded Melo Sha- Gold for my HP1000- the two amps that were made for this specific headphone. How do you like your HP2 with the HPA-1?

 

What about the difference between Melos and HPA? That would enlighten me thank you :), and very much answer my question.

 

Melos, although not a solid state, is that kind of "beefier and more powerful" amp I'm wondering about. I didn't know it had been made to match the HP-1000 though, but I'm aware there's one that John Grado use in his listening room at Grado Labs.

 

 

"Recently"? I will look it up... but I think I've read everything Head-Fi ever said about the HPA-1 and -2 twice. Including the recent thread "Best amplifier for the HP-1000" by ChefGuru.

 

I've not read anything about the RA-1 though, this is such a mess, lol.

 

 

I'm glad to hear you're still using that old amplifier! Me too.

 

I'm a bit surprised though, I really thought that with the time you would have found a better amplifier. But it reassures me to know this product with which Grado lost money with, is still getting some love. Zardon seems to like it very much, he uses it transportably.

 

I think my HPA-1 is better for my HP-1000 than the headphone amplifier in my ADL GT40 DAC combo, even though I would have preferred the HPA-1 to be completely silent. Mine has some background hiss (but not much), and I wonder if the AC Adapter will improve this aspect.


Edited by devouringone3 - 6/6/12 at 5:48pm
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"Recently"? I will look it up... but I think I've read everything Head-Fi ever said about the HPA-1 and -2 twice. Including the recent thread "Best amplifier for the HP-1000" by ChefGuru.

 

 

That's the thread I was think of. Sorry about the confusion.

About the Melos and the HPA-1/2. I like the lush mids and the deep bass the Melos seems to be able to get out of the HP1000. HPA-1/2 doesn't offer that.

I like the idea of using amps that were perpose-built for certain headphones and don't really feel I miss out on anything by not upgrading them.

In any case ( the real reason biggrin.gif), I have my hands in too many pies- my two channels system; my home cinema...$50,000+ later ,there are still a few things I want to sort out before spending money on headphone amps. 


Edited by pcf - 6/6/12 at 6:06pm
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I don't know about the HP-1000 drivers, but the conventional wisdom regarding most Grados is high current, there are a number of new-ish DIY designs that fit that bill as well as some off the shelf ones. For a while, Dsavtik (I always misspell his name) was saying the Szekeres (http://gilmore2.chem.northwestern.edu/projects/szeke1_prj.htm) was about the best for Grados. Parafeed amps are supposed to pair very well with Grados as well.

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What about a GS-1 for the HP1000? supposed to be lots of current. very clean sound.

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To me the Magnum is not a poor man's HP1000 and I am sure that is not Rhydon's intention. 

Do you know what Joe's headphones and Rhydon's headphones have in common? Anyone?

i agree.

in my opinion, hp-1000 and magnum have a different sound signature but i have no doubt that these two headphones are at the same level of quality.

i know that rhydon know very good the hp-1000 series and its history

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i agree.

in my opinion, hp-1000 and magnum have a different sound signature but i have no doubt that these two headphones are at the same level of quality.

i know that rhydon know very good the hp-1000 series and its history

I am really looking forward to Rhydon producing his own headphones. I think he has the right approach- trying to build the best product he could at the right price point. Whereas Joe would just build his man's toy without paying too much attention about the business side of things.smile.gif

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I am really looking forward to Rhydon producing his own headphones. I think he has the right approach- trying to build the best product he could at the right price point. Whereas Joe would just build his man's toy without paying too much attention about the business side of things.smile.gif

For the second time, i completely agree with you.

sometimes fate is strange: these are headphones with several problem but they are sold in large quantities and exist one canadian headphone that has a best Q/P relationship that should be ranked first in sales deadhorse.gif

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Lol, Joseph Grado is tired of using El Cheapo headphones = the HP-1000 is born... basically the same thing happened for his Scalera microphone.

 

Wait why are you all speaking about Rhydon making his own headphones? isn't that just speculation? Someone threw in the idea but didn't that came out of nowhere, and isn't funded?

 

Upgrading an existing popular headphone is something, making your own complete product is a lot different. He needs to give its product a certain appeal... I'd like to see something a lot better than that Chroma MD-1.

 

 

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Originally Posted by scootsit View Post

I don't know about the HP-1000 drivers, but the conventional wisdom regarding most Grados is high current, there are a number of new-ish DIY designs that fit that bill as well as some off the shelf ones. For a while, Dsavtik (I always misspell his name) was saying the Szekeres (http://gilmore2.chem.northwestern.edu/projects/szeke1_prj.htm) was about the best for Grados. Parafeed amps are supposed to pair very well with Grados as well.

 

Doug Savitski something like that, lol. But his forum name sounds like Davidski. I'd definitely buy his DSHA-1 product, made-for-Grado, and sold under his company ECP audio, if I didn't have any other amps already.

 

I'd like to hear Doug's take on my HPA-1 :P

 

 

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That's the thread I was think of. Sorry about the confusion.

About the Melos and the HPA-1/2. I like the lush mids and the deep bass the Melos seems to be able to get out of the HP1000. HPA-1/2 doesn't offer that.

I like the idea of using amps that were perpose-built for certain headphones and don't really feel I miss out on anything by not upgrading them.

In any case ( the real reason biggrin.gif), I have my hands in too many pies- my two channels system; my home cinema...$50,000+ later ,there are still a few things I want to sort out before spending money on headphone amps.

 

Cool! Then I won't either, or I'll try not to feeling like I'm missing out. I also like dedicated combo headphones system very much :P. I'm using Grado reference interconnects and looking for the Power Supply now.

 

Me my hands are in only one pie, but I would like to just stop for a second, take a break from Head-Fi, listen to the music and simply not care for upgrading at all. With HP-1000 + HPA-1 I feel like I can do that, totally.

 

Though I'm still looking for a HPA-2 :P, and praying that the owner also has the PS H/P-1 power supply to sell me along. I want a HPA-2 because if I am to settle myself on that amp I'll want a backup... even if the thing just won't die, I'm just insecure.

 

So basically you think there would be something better out there for the HP-1000, but HP-HPA combo has many advantages and is good enough for you for now.

 

Myself if I find a second HPA I think I'll just stop altogether and live all my life with that combo, because it's good enough and because perfection is too hard to achieve and I'd rather start focusing on something else, or saving, lol.

 

Joe invented the... Ping putter?

pingputter.png

wow, his genius also prevails outside of the audio/music world.


Edited by devouringone3 - 6/7/12 at 2:23pm
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I'm actually considering building a Szekeres for a friend of mine in the future. I'm always curious how fun little builds like that stack up against big name stuff (though discussion there-of is for obvious reasons, a big no-no around here). Anyway, when I build that one for my friend, if one or both of you would be willing to give it a listen, I'd gladly send you one. I have no idea when I would do this, just sometime later this year, basically the cost of the parts is about the same as the cost of shipping them. I always feel guilty placing small orders so if I can build a few and get feedback, that could be a lot of fun.

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Originally Posted by devouringone3 View Post

 

 

 

Joe invented the... Ping putter?

pingputter.png

wow, his genius also prevails outside of the audio/music world.

Apparently. He was a watch maker too.

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Originally Posted by devouringone3 View Post

 

Joe invented the... Ping putter?

 

wow, his genius also prevails outside of the audio/music world.

 

 

http://www.ping.com/about/default.aspx

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ping_(golf)

 

or maybe he didn’t. you can easily check before believing that stuff. unless you were joking around. in which case, never mind.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ping_(golf)

 

or maybe he didn’t. you can easily check before believing that stuff. unless you were joking around. in which case, never mind.

Joe did design the putter for them. 

Anyway, we should talk more about the Magnum in this thread.wink.gif


Edited by pcf - 6/8/12 at 1:34am
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Originally Posted by scootsit View Post

I'm actually considering building a Szekeres for a friend of mine in the future. I'm always curious how fun little builds like that stack up against big name stuff (though discussion there-of is for obvious reasons, a big no-no around here). Anyway, when I build that one for my friend, if one or both of you would be willing to give it a listen, I'd gladly send you one. I have no idea when I would do this, just sometime later this year, basically the cost of the parts is about the same as the cost of shipping them. I always feel guilty placing small orders so if I can build a few and get feedback, that could be a lot of fun.

 

Thank you but I'm not very much interested in trying out new gear right now. I'm rather close minded when it comes to showing me a new better sound that I do not own, when the day before I was thinking I was perfectly happy with my optimal sound. You don't have to have it when you don't know it, you know :P. I'm also trying to quit upgrading. I'm very content about my current set-up and now is the time to appreciate those thousands of dollars worth of headphones.

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We've talked a bit about soundstage here. I'm generally not one for digital processing, but I'm going to see if I can't start crossfeeding in foobar. I'll report back.

 

Edit: Actually, I lied. I'm an idiot! I just realized I've had the downmix to mono DSP active this whole time...oy.


Edited by scootsit - 6/10/12 at 5:18pm
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