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post #1 of 13
12/3/01 at 12:03am
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Any comment on the sound quality of this new 790 vs the 780 or 570 ? I want to buy a PCDP with good analogue sound as a gift. I learnt from previous email that 780 and 570 is good for not compressing the sound.
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post #2 of 13
12/3/01 at 12:11am
the 780 may or may not compreses the sound, depending on how you use it-

if you're using the headphone out, there will be compresion. but if you use optical or line out, there won't be any...

High-end Sony CDPs also doesn't compress the sound, and its line outs are superb....

So if you're planning on using the headphone jack, get the old Panasonic 570, whereas if you plan on getting an amp, look for a high-end sony...

Sorry, i haven't seen the 790 in north america, everything comes out a few months earlier in asia, and those models are usually much superior to north american versions...
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post #3 of 13
12/3/01 at 12:33am
Order from Hyperjack. They mostly sell import minidisc players/recorders, but carry Japanese portable cd players as well. I ordered my Sony MZ-R900 from them and they were great. Price isn't too bad either
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post #4 of 13
12/3/01 at 12:43am
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Thomas,
I just use the headphone out. Can you tell me which Sony model does not compress the sound ? Some friends tell that that the sound of Panasonic is more natural. My preference is vocal.
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post #5 of 13
12/3/01 at 12:59am
Looking at the specs (amp output, size, physical layout), the 790 is highly similar to the 780, except for a number of details. Having said that, the two units can sound different.

There will be compression if you use the phones out of the 790.

If your preference is an emphasis on vocals, Panasonic would be the preferred choice. But Sonys wouldn't necessarily sound bad - a lot of people reckon Sonys are good as long as they're expensive . I've never heard them, though (I have the 780 and bought the 570 for mom).

This year and last year's expensive Sony models (such as the D-EJ1000) have 2-step G-protection, which actually lets you choose from compressed/non-compressed memory usage.

Like thomas said, if you want to use a Panasonic that doesn't use compression, get the 570. You can switch between compressed/non-compressed anti-shock manually on the 570.

Hyperjack is great... I'd gladly recommend buying from them.
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post #6 of 13
12/3/01 at 1:37am
to my knowlege, all the G-protection models do not compress the sound, except for the brand new ones that give you the option of compression/linear...

If you're using headphone out, then definately go with panasonic... I have the "top of the line" sony, the D-ej01, and the headphone jack is aweful, very noisy, un-dynamic sound... Even a panasonic that uses compression sounds better from the headphone jack...So your friends are right, Panasonic is a lot better in all respects from the headphone jack...

So i'd recommend the 570 again... when i was in HK in march, it was very hard to find, and actually more expensive than the new models like the 780... But the 780 will compress the sound, and combined with a digital volume control, it probably sounds a lot worse than the 570...
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post #7 of 13
12/3/01 at 1:50am
I've compared the 570 and 780 directly, and ya, the 570 is definitely the way to go if you're using the headphone out.

Then again, if you ever plan to get an amp and use the lineout (you said this was a gift, so probably not...) get a 780 or even 790. Beats the 570 in every category IMO for use with an amp. I'm gonna research the 790 a bit and see if it would be a worthwhile upgrade from my 780 (with portables I can afford to upgrade to new models...yippee!)
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post #8 of 13
12/3/01 at 2:51am
When do the new line of Panasonic discmans come out in the US? (the more specific the answer, the better! )
...Cuz I would pay extra to shave a couple months off of the wait...

Oh and does anyone know if I would need a Universal Power Adapter to plug the Japanese edition 790 into my Canadian walls? Thanks!!
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post #9 of 13
12/3/01 at 9:18am
The 780 has an additional benefit of being able to provide optical out without an AC adaptor. So if you ever need that... I use the batteries when I record to MD just to reduce the clutter.

Also, does this bug anyone - Panasonic's electronic (no, not digital) volume control is in 25 steps. Regardless of amp output, 3/25 is too quiet and 4/25 is too loud for efficient earbuds (like the E888) in a quiet room

Sapphiremodena,

past Panasonic schedules suggest an early-2002 arrival. Probably first quarter? The launch date for Japan was October 1.

A lot of people think you can use 100V Japanese-spec AC adaptors with 110V North American wall outlets without trouble. However, you might want to pursue absolute peace of mind, and get a 110-->100V transformer.

Panasonic CD players all use the same 4.5V adaptor. Well, they're all 4.5V, but some provide less power than others. Some are rated at 800mA, some half of that. An alternate solution could be buying a 4.5V adaptor from Panasonic, spare part for the 780 for instance.

If you have another equipment that recharges "gumpack" batteries, you can also do that and save yourself the trouble altogether.
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post #10 of 13
12/4/01 at 2:06pm
Note to US people: the US edition of the SL-CT780 has no optical out (I have it). Once again, the US version is crippled, as usual.

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Originally posted by leon
The 780 has an additional benefit of being able to provide optical out without an AC adaptor. So if you ever need that... I use the batteries when I record to MD just to reduce the clutter.
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post #11 of 13
12/4/01 at 5:05pm
>>Note to US people: the US edition of the SL-CT780 has no optical out (I have it). Once again, the US version is crippled, as usual.

I thought it had analog/digital in the same jack, like the newer sonys?
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post #12 of 13
12/5/01 at 12:51am
He is right, I have the NA version, we get jipped big time
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post #13 of 13
12/5/01 at 3:03am
Hi guys,

Which pcdp has the best line out of those mentioned here so far?
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