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post #31 of 40
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Originally Posted by lisagorbin View Post
 

by the way, does sr80i benefit form amping. i have no amp so is it worth it to buy an amp for this?


Not really, it really depends on what you use for a source. It's good straight from the computer, but if it's just a phone, you may want to consider a small one. It doesn't benefit it's just a matter of how loud  you need your music and how much noise your source puts out now at higher volumes

post #32 of 40
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Not really, it really depends on what you use for a source.

Alright. I'm using ipod touch and sometime sansa fuze+ if not from the computer. So if the volume is not enough for me, just then, i'll consider an amp. Thanks.

post #33 of 40
@Claritas: so find yourself with taped bowl modded Grado sr80is 3-4 months after discovering Head-Fi? Can't argue with that. It's what happened to me!

@lisagorbin: You're welcome. Welcome!
post #34 of 40
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@Claritas: so find yourself with taped bowl modded Grado sr80is 3-4 months after discovering Head-Fi? Can't argue with that. It's what happened to me!
 

 

I tried the tape mod shortly after reading this review by Tyll Hertsens (http://www.innerfidelity.com/content/evaluation-grado-stock-and-modified-ear-pads). But, you're right, I didn't follow my advice and wait. Still, I wish I had followed my advice because I prefer S-cushions on all SR series Grados (so long as they have been softened by soaking them in soapy water). I know it's a minority opinion, but I prefer to have the drivers closer to my ears. It's useful to have both sorts of earpads to use with different genres of music. Thrash metal, for example, sounds better to me with L-cushions, whether tape-modded or not. Maybe L-cushions handle fast music better because there's more air between the drivers and my ears, and the tape-mod improves the bass. Experimenting with our headphones is an excellent way to find out what we enjoy most.

 

 

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[. . .] it really depends on what you use for a source. It's good straight from the computer, but if it's just a phone, you may want to consider a small one. It doesn't benefit it's just a matter of how loud you need your music and how much noise your source puts out now at higher volumes

 

I just tested the amping question using 80i to listen to the first movement of a Mozart quintet on four simple set ups:

 

1. AAC file on iPod only
2. AAC file on iPod + O2 portable amp
3. Harman Kardon CD player only
4. Harman Kardon CD player + O2 portable amp

 

I can report obvious differences between the two amped set ups and the two non-amped set ups, and I prefer both amped set ups to both non-amped set ups. I don't know if these results are true of all amps or only of some, such as the O2. Maybe I wish it weren't so, because I'm a little lazy about amping.

 

An iPod only (or another decent player) is fine, and a Grado SR doesn't strictly need an amp. So don't think you're "settling" or "making do" if you decide not to buy an amp.

 

But the benefits from amping are obvious. With both sources, the O2 made the playing sound warmer, gave the treble more body, and improved soundstage. Although I haven't tested my laptop with the O2 because I don't use my computer for listening to music, it's sensible to suppose that I would hear the same benefits if I amped it that I heard when I amped the iPod and the CD player.


Edited by Claritas - 2/22/14 at 8:07pm
post #35 of 40
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But the benefits from amping are obvious.

Did you volume match between amped and unamped set up?
I'm not questioning you. I'm just asking and making sure :smile:

post #36 of 40
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Did you volume match between amped and unamped set up?
I'm not questioning you. I'm just asking and making sure :smile:

 

Yes. Volume wasn't an issue with any of those set ups (though I listen on lower volumes than most).

 

There are many discussions about whether an amp is required for a particular pair of headphones. Often the answer is it's not strictly necessary. But that's mistakenly interpreted to mean that there are no benefits. There are obvious benefits to amping even for many headphones that everyone agrees don't need an amp, such as Koss clip ons.

post #37 of 40
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Originally Posted by Claritas View Post
There are obvious benefits to amping even for many headphones that everyone agrees don't need an amp, such as Koss clip ons.

but im guessing not just an amp right? i guess i'll not notice any difference if i use just a cheap portable amp like the fiio ones? i think will need at least a desktop amp?

post #38 of 40
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but im guessing not just an amp right? i guess i'll not notice any difference if i use just a cheap portable amp like the fiio ones? i think will need at least a desktop amp?

 

I didn't use a desktop amp: I used my larger-than-usual portable Objective O2, and I have it tuned to the lowest possible gain. I don't know what effect one of the smaller Fiios would have. But, as I wrote, you don't strictly need an amp. I enjoy my 80i perfectly well without one. If I were taking it out of the house, I would not bother carrying a portable amp. At home, it would depend on the particular recording and how tired / lazy I am.

post #39 of 40

Alright. I'm just curious because, you know, some people are willing to pay just for a slight noticeable improvement on the sound quality they get.
For now, i think i will just enjoy the sr80i without an amp. Again thank you for the advice.

post #40 of 40
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Originally Posted by lisagorbin View Post
 

Alright. I'm just curious because, you know, some people are willing to pay just for a slight noticeable improvement on the sound quality they get.
For now, i think i will just enjoy the sr80i without an amp. Again thank you for the advice.

 

You're most welcome. Thank you for motivating me to experiment with amping. Happy listening!

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