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post #16 of 189
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Originally Posted by TubeStack View Post
That's exactly what I figured the price would be.
I thought it would be a little more to be honest.

As for whether I'm going to purchase it, I'm not sure yet. I still want to get a review of the remasters before spending $244 CDN on this. Also I purchased a number of Beatles CDs right before I became aware of the remasters...
post #17 of 189
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Originally Posted by HeadLover View Post
You are getting like 16 CD's in the stereo version!
I think it is a nice price (maybe just a little bit to much)

I wonder, how will the sound quality be ??
Beatles Remastered, Beatles Remastered CDs, Beatles Box Set, 2009

"Remastering The Beatles catalog

The re-mastering process commenced with an extensive period conducting tests before finally copying the analogue master tapes into the digital medium. When this was completed, the transfer was achieved using a Pro Tools workstation operating at 24 bit 192 kHz resolution via a Prism A-D converter. Transferring was a lengthy procedure done a track at a time. Although EMI tape does not suffer the oxide loss associated with some later analogue tapes, there was nevertheless a slight build up of dust, which was removed from the tape machine heads between each title.
From the onset, considerable thought was given to what audio restorative processes were going to be allowed. It was agreed that electrical clicks, microphone vocal pops, excessive sibilance and bad edits should be improved where possible, so long as it didn’t impact on the original integrity of the songs.

In addition, de-noising technology, which is often associated with re-mastering, was to be used, but subtly and sparingly. Eventually, less than five of the 525 minutes of Beatles music was subjected to this process. Finally, as is common with today’s music, overall limiting - to increase the volume level of the CD - has been used, but on the stereo versions only. However, it was unanimously agreed that because of the importance of The Beatles’ music, limiting would be used moderately, so as to retain the original dynamics of the recordings.

When all of the albums had been transferred, each song was then listened to several times to locate any of the agreed imperfections. These were then addressed by Guy Massey, working with Audio Restoration engineer Simon Gibson.

Mastering could now take place, once the earliest vinyl pressings, along with the existing CDs, were loaded into Pro Tools, thus allowing comparisons to be made with the original master tapes during the equalization process. When an album had been completed, it was auditioned the next day in studio three –a room familiar to the engineers, as all of the recent Beatles mixing projects had taken place in there – and any further alteration of EQ could be addressed back in the mastering room. Following the initial satisfaction of Guy and Steve, Allan Rouse and Mike Heatley then checked each new re-master in yet another location and offered any further suggestions. This continued until all 13 albums were completed to the team’s satisfaction."
post #18 of 189
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Originally Posted by esco View Post
Has it been confirmed that they're releasing a vinyl box set? If so, I've got my credit card in hand
I think a lot of people are hoping for the vinyl release but there as never been anything mentioned from an official source AFAIK.
post #19 of 189
"Finally, as is common with today’s music, overall limiting - to increase the volume level of the CD"

I think I will pass. while there may be some improvements, them thinking its 'ok' to mess with compression just put a nail in the coffin for this series, for me.

LIMITING the audio? expanding maybe, but limiting? wrong direction, guys.

still playing to loudness wars. I'll pass.
post #20 of 189
More money than I want to spend right now. I'm assuming the stereo set will be available for a while as it doesn't say it is limited. I'll probably hold out on this one for now.
post #21 of 189
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Originally Posted by linuxworks View Post
"Finally, as is common with today’s music, overall limiting - to increase the volume level of the CD"

I think I will pass. while there may be some improvements, them thinking its 'ok' to mess with compression just put a nail in the coffin for this series, for me.

LIMITING the audio? expanding maybe, but limiting? wrong direction, guys.

still playing to loudness wars. I'll pass.
Only the stereo box set has this process applied. The mono box set has no limiting. Of course, you get less CD's with it though.
post #22 of 189
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Originally Posted by linuxworks View Post
"Finally, as is common with today’s music, overall limiting - to increase the volume level of the CD"

I think I will pass. while there may be some improvements, them thinking its 'ok' to mess with compression just put a nail in the coffin for this series, for me.

LIMITING the audio? expanding maybe, but limiting? wrong direction, guys.

still playing to loudness wars. I'll pass.
I find the best way to judge sound quality is months before even hearing the CDs.
post #23 of 189
so, you think that LIMITING is ever, EVER a good thing, given that the recordings came from an era that already had too much limiting and not enough dyn range, as it is?

the give-away is there in english. what do I need to listen to? they TELL us its compressed more than the previous releases.

that is a show-stopper for me. no, don't need to listen to know that much! don't need to burn my hand, either, to know when its not going to be a good experience

if you want to re-re-rebuy the white album again, on a cash-grab from big music, be my guest.
post #24 of 189
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Originally Posted by Berlioz View Post
Only the stereo box set has this process applied. The mono box set has no limiting. Of course, you get less CD's with it though.
marketing games.

all we wanted was a modern clean-up.

not one single person asked for loudness 'corrections'.

they do not deserve our money. they really don't. big music STILL does not get it.
post #25 of 189
I pre-ordered BOTH sets. Can't wait to get them.

--Jerome
post #26 of 189
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Originally Posted by jsaliga View Post
I pre-ordered BOTH sets. Can't wait to get them.

--Jerome
Even if the limiting factor is in there, shortcomings and all, so did I jerome. As well as all the single editions. I will give those as gifts this holiday season.
post #27 of 189
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Originally Posted by linuxworks View Post
marketing games.

all we wanted was a modern clean-up.

not one single person asked for loudness 'corrections'.

they do not deserve our money. they really don't. big music STILL does not get it.
I think you're being overly dogmatic here, linux. Folks like Dr. Ebbett have heard them and think they're wonderful. I haven't heard them, obviously, and so his experience counts for something in my book. I'll certainly give them a try without dismissing them out of hand, based on the opinions of experts in this field.

Moreover, as noted, the mono versions have no limiting. Aside from three albums recorded in stereo (one of which sucks IMO), you're getting the real deal, "cleaned up" as you asked for. Any reason why you'll pass on the monos? After all, the Beatles recorded in mono, and engineers created stereo.
post #28 of 189
Can I ask a stupid question? Beyond the lack of limiting (apparently in this case only). What is the overall advantage of owning a mono version? Wouldn't the stereo version always be the more engaging listen.
post #29 of 189
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Originally Posted by Pangaea View Post
Can I ask a stupid question? Beyond the lack of limiting (apparently in this case only). What is the overall advantage of owning a mono version? Wouldn't the stereo version always be the more engaging listen.
Given the shortcomings of so-called stereo in the 60s, many of the Beatles recordings sounded better in mono. Many were recorded for mono, and certainly pre-remastering, quite a few mono versions of sons sound better than their stereo counterparts. Many of the stereo cuts I find distracting to listen to, because the channel split was so artificial.
post #30 of 189
That makes sense, thanks. I have Pet Sounds in both mono and stereo, came as a set and I never bothered to listen to the mono. Now I will have to check it out.

And so the Beatles mono versions will only be available as a set? No single copies in mono?
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