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post #976 of 4545
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Originally Posted by Olimoronio View Post

I thought you were going to try the Sportapro's on these. Oh well, I just ordered a pair for a radically different pair of headphones...

 


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But I'll stick them in something similar to your woodies first and let you know how they sound.


That does looks different, which brand is it? imagine trying to find pads for those ...

post #977 of 4545
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Originally Posted by JamesMcProgger View Post



Quote:
Originally Posted by Olimoronio View Post

I thought you were going to try the Sportapro's on these. Oh well, I just ordered a pair for a radically different pair of headphones...

 


d855a643.jpg

 

 

But I'll stick them in something similar to your woodies first and let you know how they sound.


That does looks different, which brand is it? imagine trying to find pads for those ...


They're "Atlantis" from Japan... Vintage stuff. And I have three pairs of pads that will fit. happy.gif

post #978 of 4545

Not trying to derail your thread or anything ljokerl I just wanted to say this and didn't want to start a new thread about it.

 

 

You guys ever find things in headphones that are so unbelievable that you are almost embarrassed to repeat them?

 

For instance - I do a lot of thrift store shopping looking for vintage gear (mostly speakers and amps and such) and I always see a headphone for the price of dirt so I usually pick 'em up.

 

The other day I was at Goodwill and they had this pair of wireless phones in the packaging. The only thing was the infrared (*shudders*) sender was missing but I didn't care about that 'cause I always wire them up anyways just to see how they would sound.

 

These phones are called XO Vision and I looked them up on the net and they run about $12 a pair. Well, the first thing I noticed when I took off the pads was that the drivers were HUGE for such a small phone. I hooked them up to some spare wire I had lying around and I'll be damned if they didn't sound good... really good in fact. These fairly easily beat out most of the phones I've heard in the $0-$20 category and many in the $20-$50 category. I plan on buying several of these just for the drivers alone.

 

Now I know most of the folks reading this are probably saying to themselves "Yeah right, this dude is tripping." Well, all I can say is if you ever see a pair get them and wire them up and then tell me I'm wrong.

 

Then I found a pair of full-sized wireless Sony's (don't know the model #) and had a similar experience... and I'm no fan of Sony, believe me.

 

I don't know why I'm sharing this other than I thought it was funny what you can find when you really look and it's also funny how few people will believe it. As if I go around making up stories for fun in my spare time.

 

Anyways, I'm just rambling on now so... see ya later.

 

 

/derail


Edited by Olimoronio - 11/22/10 at 9:43pm
post #979 of 4545

I've been in the bad habit of picking up cheap headphones hoping I'd "strike it rich" with such an amazing find, but I never had any luck. Your discovery of the DHP-II was good, don't you use those anymore? Just wondering. Recently I picked up some cheap Maxell headphones and I was hoping they'd somehow have the DHP-II drivers. No such luck. I stopped buying the under $20 Wal-Mart and Target stuff. None of it is ever good.

 

The one thing I've finally realized is that when it comes to the best sounding headphone for under $150, a higher price does not ALWAYS equal better sound quality. Heck, I've had some $300 headphones that were no better then some $80 headphones. It seems like when you spend past $150 on a headphone you're sometimes just paying extra for the build quality, design and comfort. Nothing new there..

 

Lately I just see posts like "What's the best headphone for $200-$250" and it makes no sense to me because there are so many headphones out there that meet their sound requirements that cost less and sound just as good as ones in that price range.

 

People on here often see a $30 no-name amazing sounding headphone and suddenly just run away and completely ignore it as if it really actually sounds like a $30 headphone and couldn't possibly sound any better.

 

Since you liked the DHP-II so much (and I love it too) I've found another good "find" for myself you can try out. Get a Koss UR-55 ($50!) and take off the grill and fabric. Compare it with the DHP-II and I'm sure even you will agree it's one amazing headphone and sounds even better than the DHP-II! Without that mod it can't even compete with the DHP-II really. If you don't agree, I'll buy them back from you so you have nothing to lose. They can now even compete with the modded Grado SR-80. It's possibly now even one of the absolute best gaming headphones for under $50.

 

BTW have you tried poking holes below the driver of the DHP-II on the shell? It adds more detail, but don't do more then 1 each on the top and bottom or it makes sibilance in recordings much more noticeable and it's a huge distraction. You can reverse it with masking tape.
 

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Originally Posted by Olimoronio View Post

Not trying to derail your thread or anything ljokerl I just wanted to say this and didn't want to start a new thread about it.

 

 

You guys ever find things in headphones that are so unbelievable that you are almost embarrassed to repeat them?

 

For instance - I do a lot of thrift store shopping looking for vintage gear (mostly speakers and amps and such) and I always see a headphone for the price of dirt so I usually pick 'em up.

 

The other day I was at Goodwill and they had this pair of wireless phones in the packaging. The only thing was the infrared (*shudders*) sender was missing but I didn't care about that 'cause I always wire them up anyways just to see how they would sound.

 

These phones are called XO Vision and I looked them up on the net and they run about $12 a pair. Well, the first thing I noticed when I took off the pads was that the drivers were HUGE for such a small phone. I hooked them up to some spare wire I had lying around and I'll be damned if they didn't sound good... really good in fact. These fairly easily beat out most of the phones I've heard in the $0-$20 category and many in the $20-$50 category. I plan on buying several of these just for the drivers alone.

 

Now I know most of the folks reading this are probably saying to themselves "Yeah right, this dude is tripping." Well, all I can say is if you ever see a pair get them and wire them up and then tell me I'm wrong.

 

Then I found a pair of full-sized wireless Sony's (don't know the model #) and had a similar experience... and I'm no fan of Sony, believe me.

 

I don't know why I'm sharing this other than I thought it was funny what you can find when you really look and it's also funny how few people will believe it. As if I go around making up stories for fun in my spare time.

 

Anyways, I'm just rambling on now so... see ya later.

 

 

/derail

post #980 of 4545

I actually did buy the UR55's and was all exited to hear the next giant killer. Unfortunately I hated them. The bass was horrible. As a matter of fact I wrote in this very thread...

 

 

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Originally Posted by Olimoronio View Post

Damnit! That kind of rules out the DJ100 for me. I have a Musiland Monitor 02 which I consider more of an outboard DAC with a gutless wonder of an amp tacked on for the hell of it. Working now to get me a nice tube amp.

 

Anyways, I hope the bass on the DJ's is far, FAR better than the bass on the UR55's. Ugh... Just horrible. THE definition of one note bass. No matter what I played through them all I got for bass was this dreadful, droning boom, boom, boom. Blech! And when I say "boom" I don't mean overhang or anything... no, no. That was just the "one note" of bass that they played. Boom, boom, boom.

 

As a matter of fact the bass was so terrible that I hardly noticed any of the other qualities or lack thereof from the phone. All I can say is that they didn't seem to produce any other egregious errors... It's just too bad about that bass. These could have been a good phone - as they are now you can keep them.

 

One more thing about the UR55's that I haven't seen mentioned: I have a medium/large head and these fit over my ears but just barely. If you have a large to very large head then forgedaboudit!


 

It's too bad but I am VERY picky about my bass. If these had the bass of the DHP ii's I might like them but as they are now... They're just not my cup of tea.

 

I mostly agree with the rest of your statements though. Like one thing I noticed when I went in to my local audio salon for some auditioning - I listened to the Grado SR225i's and the SR325i's. Now, there was a difference between the two but I don't know if I'd say that one was necessarily better than the other. It would just depend on your listening preferences I suppose. The 225's cost $200 and the 325's cost $300. I did like the 325's better but that's just me, and even for me, they were very small differences between the two. Of course the 325's have a metal housing as opposed to cheap looking plastic but that's not really worth $100 IMO.

post #981 of 4545

I wasn't too thrilled about the bass either out of the box. Sometimes it's fine and during other songs it's overpowering and something just doesn't sound right.

Believe it or not, the mod totally fixes the bass. Complete night and day difference. It gets reduced a bit and the overall sound signature is now more balanced out.

Some people try the UR-55 and notice a muffled sound to it's signature and it's due to to the grill and fabric behind it. Obviously it wouldn't be worth a second try, but I bet if you tried them without the grill you'd love them.

Seriously it's that much of an improvement. I even compared them side by side to the DHP-II and preferred the UR-55 modded. The bass amount and quality is about the same on the two.

The UR-55 has some problems un-modded. They only appear during specific songs, mostly bass heavy ones or where a lot is going on all at once. The main reason all this is fixed is that the driver inside seems to need lots of air and the grill doesn't allow it to have enough it seems.
 

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Originally Posted by Olimoronio View Post

I actually did buy the UR55's and was all exited to hear the next giant killer. Unfortunately I hated them. The bass was horrible. As a matter of fact I wrote in this very thread...

post #982 of 4545

I believe you and I really would buy another pair just to try it but I didn't like the way they fit either. They fit over my ears but just barely. I felt like I had to hold still or they would come up too high and wouldn't sound as they should.

 

 

As far as poking holes in the (I guess you mean) grill/lens of the DHP's - yeah I did it. Not the way you did though. I took out the drivers and drilled small holes right in the center of the lens. It gave them more detail in the treble for sure but I like them either way.

post #983 of 4545

Seriously, if this XO Vision company doesn't make a wired phone with this driver then they are just stupid.

 

JamesMcProgger, I think you should try a pair of these in your Kanen's.

 

This is them. Try 'em out. Only $12

 

 

 XO Vision IR620

 

 

 

 

 

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The bass is just smashing on Depeche Mode's Lovetheme. Awesome.


Edited by Olimoronio - 11/23/10 at 2:10am
post #984 of 4545


Thats interesting.

I don't have any IR transmitter so i wouldn't be able to try them before taking the driver out, they don't have an aux connection, do they? or i might just get an IR transmitter as well ... goddamnit my pocket hates this forum

 

 

they have pretty good reviews in amazon for being so unknown.

post #985 of 4545

I started writing stuff here about how i played with my denon hp700 and some koss pads for a while, but then it got longer, and then i added photos, and then it got even longer so i started a thread blink.gif

 

here: Playing and shifting the denon hp700 pads

 

i'd appreciate if you guys read and give me your input, here or there makes no difference.

 

one photo here :

denon hp700 with qz99 + k75 pads.jpg

 

 

 

also:

Joker dont you think this post would look better with a 60 instead of a 59 in the header? tongue_smile.gif

 

and btw:

since olimoronio mentioned those good drivers he discovered i cant stop thinking of open my beloved terrible sounding QZ99 and change the driver ...

post #986 of 4545
Thread Starter 

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Originally Posted by JamesMcProgger View Post

I don't have any IR transmitter so i wouldn't be able to try them before taking the driver out, they don't have an aux connection, do they? or i might just get an IR transmitter as well ... goddamnit my pocket hates this forum

 

they have pretty good reviews in amazon for being so unknown.


I'm guessing hardwiring them might be the best option.

 


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Originally Posted by JamesMcProgger View Post

I started writing stuff here about how i played with my denon hp700 and some koss pads for a while, but then it got longer, and then i added photos, and then it got even longer so i started a thread blink.gif

 

here: Playing and shifting the denon hp700 pads

 

i'd appreciate if you guys read and give me your input, here or there makes no difference.

 

also:

Joker dont you think this post would look better with a 60 instead of a 59 in the header? tongue_smile.gif

 

and btw:

since olimoronio mentioned those good drivers he discovered i cant stop thinking of open my beloved terrible sounding QZ99 and change the driver ...



Nice HP700 mod. I wasn't a fan of the pads either but they were comfortable for 2-3 hours for me. I'm guessing stuffed beyer pads might work as well.

 

Yes, 60 would look better. In due time. I've got enough phones to push it to 70 - just not enough time.

post #987 of 4545

Joker iam just wondering if the scores you put on the portable headphones are compared to the iems. 5.5 for KSC75 is equal to a 5.5 in iems?

You mentioned that you score comparing with the best pair you tested as a 10/10. ATck-10 for example, but does it come to a point were iems and portables are scored in the same scale?

post #988 of 4545
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Originally Posted by Angelopsaro View Post

Joker iam just wondering if the scores you put on the portable headphones are compared to the iems. 5.5 for KSC75 is equal to a 5.5 in iems?

You mentioned that you score comparing with the best pair you tested as a 10/10. ATck-10 for example, but does it come to a point were iems and portables are scored in the same scale?



I won't claim accuracy since I don't actively consider the relationship between the two charts when scoring phones but it should be comparable within +/- 1 point. I haven't given any portable a 10/10 because I haven't found one as satisfactory as the CK10 or my other 9.5-10/10 IEMs.

post #989 of 4545

Nice reviews. How about the Pioneer SE-MJ31? It just came out, I love them.

post #990 of 4545
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Originally Posted by ljokerl View Post

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Originally Posted by JamesMcProgger View Post

I don't have any IR transmitter so i wouldn't be able to try them before taking the driver out, they don't have an aux connection, do they? or i might just get an IR transmitter as well ... goddamnit my pocket hates this forum

 

they have pretty good reviews in amazon for being so unknown.


I'm guessing hardwiring them might be the best option.

 

 

Finally. I've been trying to say this over and over but the forum wouldn't let me post for some reason. Just wire them up. Should take about 5-10 minutes tops and they'll sound better than with an IR transmitter anyways.

 

 

 

EDIT: BTW, I should be getting those Sportapro's soon and I'll stick them in a phone with some big round cups like the Kanen's and let you know how they sound.

I may try the same with the XO Vision but I'm really digging the way they sound right now in their original enclosure.


Edited by Olimoronio - 11/24/10 at 11:26am
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