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post #646 of 4545

Well, if they say "Titanium" anywhere on the packaging or on the phone then they probably are the KSC's.

 

What do you have against dismantling? It's the only way to be sure.

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Because, I am the kind of person who always has "spare parts" left over when they try to reassemble said disassembled part. Nuff said? I guess you could consider that modifying?? If so, I'm an expert! :P Seriously though, I can probably remove the earpads, and the 3 screws holding it together, without much of a problem.

 

In light of the fact that the DJ100's are now on sale for $30 off (makes them the same price as the UR55's), at Best Buy, I may end up with these. I will check the packaging on the UR55's when I'm there though.


Edited by cam94z28 - 8/24/10 at 12:14am
post #648 of 4545

Yeah, I saw that too but Hmmm... It's... nevermind. lol

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come on.... you know you want to say it!

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Got the 185's today. First impressions out of the box are very little to no bass impact at lower volumes (maybe it comes out with burn-in), nasaly/honky in the upper mids, and sibilant treble at a volume level high enough to bring the bass out. -3db treble, and +3 bass in rockbox (Fuze v2) seemed to smooth them out quite a bit. Bass impact is now there, and I can deal with the mids. They definitely aren't bad for the money. I've heard worse for more money. They kind of remind me of a bass shy version of my K81DJ's, without the sweet AKG mids. And, they're actually more comfortable. I will have to see if burn-in helps. Still curious if anyone has any comments on the higher Coby models.

 

As for the ON3's. I ordered them, and the coby's from amazon (J&R Music World seller), so I shouldn't have to worry about fakes. If they sound disgusting I will look into it.

 

EDIT: I retract my previous statement. As I sat here for the first 30 minutes listening to these, the bass surely and steadily came forward. Bass EQ now at +1 or +0. I think the mids are starting to smooth out too. I'm a convertee, burn-in is very real! :) At least, on cheap phones.


The CV185s I got were well burned-in so give them some time. Cheap phones do indeed tend to clear up more dramatically (except for the ones that don't...). The treble should calm down.

 

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In light of the fact that the DJ100's are now on sale for $30 off (makes them the same price as the UR55's), at Best Buy, I may end up with these. I will check the packaging on the UR55's when I'm there though.


Very tempting but CA tax kills it for me so I guess I'll hold off for now.

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Is sales tax that high out there?  That's a shame. 

 

In Oklahoma it's 8.375 percent.  Not a total killer but high enough. that would put those Pro DJ100's at 54.18.

 

They seem to be getting a bit of buzz right now.

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Very tempting but CA tax kills it for me so I guess I'll hold off for now.

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BTW When is someone going to review the Koss UR-55 sold at Best Buy? I'd do it but I want to make 100% sure that they do not utilize the KSC75 driver first.


Went with my eye on the DJ100's, but they were out of stock, so I picked up the UR55's at Best Buy today. No indication on the packaging of titanium drivers. Haven't taken them apart or anything, I can't even figure out how the pads come off. Don't really want to, either. They sound so damn good. Like a very slightly more closed-in (depite being open) sounding version of the porta pro's. I don't have the KSC75's so I can't directly compare. Bass is very good, punchy and MUCH better controlled, not as powerful as some people here are saying. It blends very well, unless a particular song brings it out. I've even gone +1 with it on some songs. No sibilance to speak of, even on very bright songs, and I'm very sensitive to it. Earshot, Art of Dying, Disturbed, Deftones, Atreyu, Korn, Drowning Pool, Funeral For a Friend, Shinedown, Drake :) all smooth as silk, but at the same time very airy, with sparkle and shimmer. And the biggest surprise is the mids arent honky/nasaly/shouty at all. I'm betting their open design is to blame. These almost make me want to sell all of the headphones (check the full list under my profile) that I've been collecting, trying to find a sound signature I don't find fatiguing (bright, sibilant, nasaly) in 15 minutes. Where the porta pro's can sometimes be slightly harsh, not so with these. I haven't cringed once, or touched the volume since putting these on. The only thing I have that sounds remotely close (though not as good) is my Philips SHP895's, also open.

 

The only negative I can think of is that they're not terribly sensitive despite their rating (ohms + sensitivity). My rockboxed Sansa Fuze v2 is at -5db with them at a moderate level, but they are plenty loud at that level. I wouldn't need to ever go much louder. Weaker DAP's may have more trouble driving them, though. Also, FYI, when looking at these things, they appear to be a hybrid between an earpad and an On/Around ear phone. Although I've never had a pair, from pictures I've seen, these are vaguely similar to the grado's with bowl pads (ala. SR80 and above), in design.


Edited by cam94z28 - 8/24/10 at 10:05pm
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Is sales tax that high out there?  That's a shame. 

 

In Oklahoma it's 8.375 percent.  Not a total killer but high enough. that would put those Pro DJ100's at 54.18.

 

They seem to be getting a bit of buzz right now.


 


Tax varies by district. For LA County it's 9.75% which, combined with best buy shipping, puts the DJ100 over the $59.99 shipped J&R is charging. I think CA holds the dubious honours of having the highest sales tax rates in the country.

 

And yeah, I could do ship to store, but then I'd have to be bothered to go pick them up at some point. None of the local stores stock them for some reason.

 

@cam94z28: Thanks a lot for the impressions. Might be the push I need to pick up one of the Koss sets 


Edited by ljokerl - 8/25/10 at 2:20am
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ljokerl, I really appreciate your work. This thread helped me a lot, because it allows me to compare especially isolation and comfort of headphones I know with others I haven't tried yet because of the points system you used and your very detailled descriptions.

 

I would love to see some more headphones included in the review, like the Shure SRH240 and the AKG K420 and K450.

 

Keep up the great work, IMHO this is the most useful thread in the portable headphones forum! I wish there was one like this for full size headphones as well ...

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The HTX7 is fully circumaural for me but it's a small headphone. The inner pad diameter is about as big as the Sennheiser HD202 and derivatives but the pads are thinner so they are smaller overall. Cup depth was plentiful for me but not quite on-level with the JVC S700, which have angled drivers to create more room. I've never heard/seen the X200 in person.



Oh that's a bummer. I had big time comfort issues with the HD202s so I really can't get the HTX7 since they have the same inner pad diameter as you say. I really want something fully circumaural for myself which are considerably better than the KSC-75 in sound quality. How do you think the ATH-M50 are for me then?
 

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ljokerl, I really appreciate your work. This thread helped me a lot, because it allows me to compare especially isolation and comfort of headphones I know with others I haven't tried yet because of the points system you used and your very detailled descriptions.

 

I would love to see some more headphones included in the review, like the Shure SRH240 and the AKG K420 and K450.

 

Keep up the great work, IMHO this is the most useful thread in the portable headphones forum! I wish there was one like this for full size headphones as well ...


Glad you found the thread useful. I know a lot of people don't like the points system but I figured that those who do just don't speak out very often .

 

No plans for the two you mentioned in the immediate future but there will be others .
 

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Oh that's a bummer. I had big time comfort issues with the HD202s so I really can't get the HTX7 since they have the same inner pad diameter as you say. I really want something fully circumaural for myself which are considerably better than the KSC-75 in sound quality. How do you think the ATH-M50 are for me then?
 


I can't imagine anyone having fit issues with the ATH-M50 except for maybe them being much hotter to wear for prolonged periods than the KSC75s. I'd say go for it.

post #657 of 4545

Thanks a lot for the review, cam. Your description of them makes me think of how I felt when I first heard the Maxell DHP ii's (although I could never really give up my collection). With you saying they have better controlled bass and non-piercing highs I think I'm going to have to pick up a pair.

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No problem. I wish I could write detailed, critical reviews like many of the people here, but that is my best laymans review. :) I could break down features of certain songs, but I doubt anyone here has my musical taste.

 

It is basically a standard procedure for me to cut treble by 2-3 db in rockbox, on all of my headphones. In this configuration, they are as I described them. I like their design too because I feel like I'm wearing a budget pair of SR80's. If you remove the pads, they would look like a pair of flat earpad headphones with an open cup on the back. I've been burning them in since last night (had to work all day), so I'm curious to see if their sound changed.

 

If someone can explain how to get the pads off without tearing them in half, I'm willing to open them up and look at the drivers.

post #659 of 4545

I can't imagine anyone having fit issues with the ATH-M50 except for maybe them being much hotter to wear for prolonged periods than the KSC75s. I'd say go for it.


Hey joker. Sorry I meant the ATH-M30. The one in your review. All these ATH-M50 recommendations everywhere are getting in my head it seems lol.

 

Im on a budget of max $70-80 for the new closed headphones.

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Hey joker. Sorry I meant the ATH-M30. The one in your review. All these ATH-M50 recommendations everywhere are getting in my head it seems lol.

 

Im on a budget of max $70-80 for the new closed headphones.


Well the M30 is pretty shallow-fitting so your ears may touch the grilles. If you find that sort of thing painful I'd stay away. 

 

I know I haven't posted the review yet since I've got to sell them but you may want to consider the Ultrasone HFI-450. It's a deep-cup closed can. B&H has it for $69.99. Quite comfortable if you can live with the moderately strong clamping force. Sound is very decent - not ATH-M50 level but better than the M30. Very slightly rolled off on either end and sibilant out of the box but they settle in nicely.

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