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post #616 of 4545

FYI,

Hopefully it hasn't been posted in the other 40 pages of this review, but I just noticed the ATH-ON3A (and ATH-ON3W) are on amazon for $13/$12 respectively. If these are legit, this surely increases their value over what was reviewed, as they are now 1/3 of the price.

post #617 of 4545

It's been a long time and, gee, is Aiwa still in business?

 

Another thing, Joker, could you please check how easy to disassemble headphones are when you review them? I've been getting PMs about modding Roland RH-50, Denon DN-HP500, AH-P372, etc. Other people have modded Panasonic RP-HTX7, but, say, the JVC HA-S700 were a disappointment as they can't be taken apart without ripping off cloth in the cups.

post #618 of 4545

Denon's new serious portable headphones, AH-D510R and AH-D310R. Whee. Denon has finally seen the light and is about to release what looks like sturdy circumaural portable headphones.

 

AHD510R_Front_G_rdax_175x302.gif

 

- AH-D510R (42 mm diaphragms) and...

 

AHD310R_Front_G_rdax_175x288.gif

 

- AH-D310R. 42 mm. diaphragms.

 

Images are linked to Denon's product pages.


Edited by Seidhepriest - 8/19/10 at 12:26pm
post #619 of 4545
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Originally Posted by cam94z28 View Post

FYI,

Hopefully it hasn't been posted in the other 40 pages of this review, but I just noticed the ATH-ON3A (and ATH-ON3W) are on amazon for $13/$12 respectively. If these are legit, this surely increases their value over what was reviewed, as they are now 1/3 of the price.

 

Good point about the value but if you ask me, even if they are legit, I still wouldn't necessarily jump on them at that price unless you really like the looks. Not with Coby CV185 available for less



Quote:

Originally Posted by Seidhepriest View Post

It's been a long time and, gee, is Aiwa still in business?

 

Another thing, Joker, could you please check how easy to disassemble headphones are when you review them? I've been getting PMs about modding Roland RH-50, Denon DN-HP500, AH-P372, etc. Other people have modded Panasonic RP-HTX7, but, say, the JVC HA-S700 were a disappointment as they can't be taken apart without ripping off cloth in the cups.

 

Well, the Aiwa clip-ons that are still for sale are old NOS. Aiwa has basically disappeared as a company.

 

As for taking the phones apart, I don't usually bother unless I have to. A lot of the portables I get my hands on aren't brilliantly-built and attempting to pry them apart is risky. 


Quote:

Originally Posted by Seidhepriest View Post

Denon's new serious portable headphones, AH-D510R and AH-D310R. Whee. Denon has finally seen the light and is about to release what looks like sturdy circumaural portable headphones.

 

AHD510R_Front_G_rdax_175x302.gif

 

- AH-D510R and...

 

AHD310R_Front_G_rdax_175x288.gif

 

- AH-D310R.


Now that's truly excellent. They do look a bit meatier than the D1001k. Wonder how they fit in sound-wise. Also, is that an iPhone remote I see on the cord? About time a major audio house stood up to Monster's ControlTalk.

post #620 of 4545

You can still check by the looks. E. g. screws holding the headphones together, or them being disassemblable like AH-P372. You don't have to take them apart, just check whether they can be taken apart. Helps us modders.

 

The Denon portables do look sturdy, and yes they have Apple remotes. Click the pictures for Denon product pages. They're cheaper than AH-D1001. Not by much, but still. Hey. Denon full-size portables. AH-D510 look circumaural.

post #621 of 4545

The big difference between AH-D510 and AH-D310 seems to be the frame - AH-D510 have an aluminium frame.

 

MSRP's $70 for AH-D310R and $100 for AH-D510R. Which does look a bit expensive, but AH-D1001's MSRP is $150. Eventually online prices drop to Japanese equivalents - so AH-D510 might cost around $60-70.

 

BTW, the three-year-old AH-D1000 here have a loose headband joint... The plastic is decent, but Denon/Foster releasing headphones with an all-plastic (OK, magnesium headband, but plastic joints, and everything else is plastic) frame for such a price isn't serious.

 

The remote is a fifth wheel, the headphones won't get a decent "fill" without an amp anyway, but they could be recabled to a four-ring plug. An amp could also be wired with four-ring sockets/four-ring line cable.


Edited by Seidhepriest - 8/19/10 at 12:54pm
post #622 of 4545


 

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Originally Posted by cam94z28 View Post

FYI,

Hopefully it hasn't been posted in the other 40 pages of this review, but I just noticed the ATH-ON3A (and ATH-ON3W) are on amazon for $13/$12 respectively. If these are legit, this surely increases their value over what was reviewed, as they are now 1/3 of the price.

 

Good point about the value but if you ask me, even if they are legit, I still wouldn't necessarily jump on them at that price unless you really like the looks. Not with Coby CV185 available for less


Your review on the Coby was really surprising. I would give them a shot if you could confirm something. Every headphone/earbud/etc... I've ever looked at by Coby has had an insert or a warning in the documentation about containing lead, specifically in the cable. Virtually all of their earbuds/IEM's come with this warning, but not sure about cans. Did these come with any such warning?

post #623 of 4545
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Originally Posted by Seidhepriest View Post

The big difference between AH-D510 and AH-D310 seems to be the frame - AH-D510 have an aluminium frame.

 

The remote is a fifth wheel, the headphones won't get a decent "fill" without an amp anyway, but they could be recabled to a four-ring plug. An amp could also be wired with four-ring sockets/four-ring line cable.

 

Aluminum frame sounds great. I hope by 'frame' they mean both the headband and hinges and not a thin strip of metal like Bose OEs.

 

As for the remote, I doubt it will be a dealbreaker for many head-fiers but it's nice to have an alternative to the Beats Controltalk and the (few) other full-size headsets out there for the public at large.


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Originally Posted by cam94z28 View Post


Your review on the Coby was really surprising. I would give them a shot if you could confirm something. Every headphone/earbud/etc... I've ever looked at by Coby has had an insert or a warning in the documentation about containing lead, specifically in the cable. Virtually all of their earbuds/IEM's come with this warning, but not sure about cans. Did these come with any such warning?


Unfortunately I don't have the original packaging for the CV185 but my CV163 has no such warning. Perhaps jant71 can be of more help if he kept the CV185 box.


Edited by ljokerl - 8/19/10 at 5:58pm
post #624 of 4545

The headband on AH-D510R looks beefy. Looks like metal with plastic, as on AH-D1001. Hinges are most likely plastic, and they can get deformed in a bad fall (experience), but, quote from Denon's website...

 

Quote:
In addition, the earpieces feature Denon’s exclusive Hybrid Metal Housing technology, which combines machined aluminium alloy with resonance-free resin to provide the ideal combination of lightness and acoustical rigidity.

 

Could be just the cups though...


Edited by Seidhepriest - 8/19/10 at 8:46pm
post #625 of 4545

7777777777

 

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Originally Posted by ljokerl View Post


Unfortunately I don't have the original packaging for the CV185 but my CV163 has no such warning. Perhaps jant71 can be of more help if he kept the CV185 box.


I remember back when I had a Doba dropship account, the discription of basically every Coby headphone had this warning included, and it could be read on the packaging pictures of some. This was a few years ago, so maybe it has been resolved. I remember their pastel colored earbuds had this warning. Just did a few minutes of reading, and so far, the CVE92, CVEM76, Jammerz, and the earbuds included with most of their mp3 players come to light. Also, any product on cobyusa.com that has a .pdf manual will contain this information. None of their fullsize cans have manuals though :P

 

Also, I'm curious how your CV163's sound in comparison? I'm surprised your review on the CV185's hasn't piqued interest in their other offerings, like the CV320, several of their sportapro-esque behind-the-ear models, or their DJ models like the CV720/790 look interesting

 

I did end up pulling the trigger on the 185's as I decided to order the ATH-ON3's as my first experience with Audio Technica, at the same time. I'm not expecting ES7 sound from the ON3's, but hopefully they honor the AT house sound.


Edited by cam94z28 - 8/20/10 at 11:40am
post #626 of 4545

Any word on a release date for those new Denon's yet?

post #627 of 4545


 

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Originally Posted by cam94z28 View Post

7777777777

 


I remember back when I had a Doba dropship account, the discription of basically every Coby headphone had this warning included, and it could be read on the packaging pictures of some. This was a few years ago, so maybe it has been resolved. I remember their pastel colored earbuds had this warning. Just did a few minutes of reading, and so far, the CVE92, CVEM76, Jammerz, and the earbuds included with most of their mp3 players come to light. Also, any product on cobyusa.com that has a .pdf manual will contain this information. None of their fullsize cans have manuals though :P

 

Also, I'm curious how your CV163's sound in comparison? I'm surprised your review on the CV185's hasn't piqued interest in their other offerings, like the CV320, several of their sportapro-esque behind-the-ear models, or their DJ models like the CV720/790 look interesting

 

I did end up pulling the trigger on the 185's as I decided to order the ATH-ON3's as my first experience with Audio Technica, at the same time. I'm not expecting ES7 sound from the ON3's, but hopefully they honor the AT house sound.

 

I don't remember but looking at a photo shows an RoHS compliant symbol(with the leaf) next to the CE on the back of the package. Seems to be resolved.
 

post #628 of 4545
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Originally Posted by cam94z28 View Post

Also, I'm curious how your CV163's sound in comparison? I'm surprised your review on the CV185's hasn't piqued interest in their other offerings, like the CV320, several of their sportapro-esque behind-the-ear models, or their DJ models like the CV720/790 look interesting

 

I did end up pulling the trigger on the 185's as I decided to order the ATH-ON3's as my first experience with Audio Technica, at the same time. I'm not expecting ES7 sound from the ON3's, but hopefully they honor the AT house sound.


The CV163 is not nearly as good as the CV185, both in sound and build quality. Comfort is decent and that's about it. My next target might be the CV135. The CV720 is interesting as well. I believe Olimoronio bought a set and reported that they sound decent.

 

There's a thread somewhere around here detailing the differences between real and fake ATH-ON3s. Might be of interest to you, though it's a few years old and fakes may have gotten better in the meantime.



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Any word on a release date for those new Denon's yet?


Nope, though it appears there's a third new model - the D1100 - with 50mm drivers (old D1001k had 40mm drivers). Not sure if the D1100 will be small enough to use portably.

post #629 of 4545

Hmm, do the dj cans fall under "portable"?

 

I'll be getting the Q40 soon, so I plan on making a comparison thread between that and the M50/SRH840 (either that or just add to another one).

post #630 of 4545



50mm drivers.  Wow!!  That sounds like a fun headphone to me already.  I like Denons.  Looking forward to the release of this new line. 

 

How's your review of the EM7 coming? 

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Nope, though it appears there's a third new model - the D1100 - with 50mm drivers (old D1001k had 40mm drivers). Not sure if the D1100 will be small enough to use portably.

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