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post #481 of 4545

For those of you that own the HD25-1, do you prefer the pleather pads or the cloth pads?  I have not switched mine out yet.  What is the difference in sound if any?  I'm sure the cloth pads are probably more comfortable. 

post #482 of 4545

Thanks for the update ljokerl!  I may have to try out the DT235 one day.  I've been interested in the portable Beyers ever since I've seen its funkier predecessor (the DT231 Galactic) at HeadRoom.

 

If you don't mind me asking: Do you have anything planned for the upcoming one-year anniversary of this thread?

 

Off-topic: My first post (the former second post of this thread) was finally deleted!  Many thanks to the kind moderator who did that for me!

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For those of you that own the HD25-1, do you prefer the pleather pads or the cloth pads?  I have not switched mine out yet.  What is the difference in sound if any?  I'm sure the cloth pads are probably more comfortable. 


I prefer velour. The comfort is indeed excellent and though I've seen people say that bass impact and isolation drop off significantly with the switch from pleather pads, neither change was very significant to my ears. And of course switching back is quite easy. 

 

Oh and my HD25-1 is the limited edition version and came with a hard carrying case instead of velour pads. Had to go and buy them separately .
 

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Thanks for the update ljokerl!  I may have to try out the DT235 one day.  I've been interested in the portable Beyers ever since I've seen its funkier predecessor (the DT231 Galactic) at HeadRoom.

 

If you don't mind me asking: Do you have anything planned for the upcoming one-year anniversary of this thread?

 

Off-topic: My first post (the former second post of this thread) was finally deleted!  Many thanks to the kind moderator who did that for me!


There's some great deals on B-Stock DT235s over at headroom. $39.99 is a steal for a headphone of this caliber. I might end up picking up a white one for use around the house (just to be different, y'know). I currently use the HD238s but they really don't fare too well against the Beyers on any level.

 

Thanks for the anniversary reminder. I'd completely forgotten (how like life!). I'll have to kick it up a notch and bring you guys something interesting.

 

Funny, but I didn't even notice your post being gone. I'd gotten so used to it. I did ask a mod to remove it way back when but was told that it didn't break any rules and therefore did not warrant deletion. Thanks for pursuing that!

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Oh and my HD25-1 is the limited edition version and came with a hard carrying case instead of velour pads. Had to go and buy them separately .
 

 



Man, I didn't even know they came with a hard case.  That would be nice to have.  I might swap my pads out and give it a try.  the more I wear these the more I like them.  Nice detail for sure. 

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Standard question: how disassemblable are the DT235? And how recableable?

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I've been meaning to write up a review of the MS400 as well. I also want to try modding the earpads a bit as soon as I can find some foam/fibre to fluff it up.


Wow, amazing what just a few pieces of cotton can do. I stuffed up the earpads with a few cotton balls to raise them by maybe ~5 mm (~1/4"), and the comfort has increased phenomenally. My ears don't bottom out anymore and it relieves the pressure from being so close to the drivers (less fatigue). Sound is damped ever so slightly (moreso on the low end, which is ok since these cans are bass heavy) but slightly airier which is nice on the high end. The increased spacing means the clamping force is a tiny bit higher, but nothing an overnight stretch won't fix. Everyone who owns a pair ought to try this. It's $0.10 worth of material, takes one minute, and is fully reversible.


Edited by Armaegis - 6/4/10 at 9:12am
post #487 of 4545

Looking forward to Senn hd238's review.  Wonder how it scores compared with others.

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Preciate the heads up.  I just ordered one.  Don't think I'm quite ready to put down my HD25-1's just yet.  But, that's why so many of us have a wall full of headphones.  Lot's of options!  Looking forward to hearing the Beyer's though.  the only Beyer's I have ever owned were the DT880's but they were just too bright for my taste so I sold them. 

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There's some great deals on B-Stock DT235s over at headroom. $39.99 is a steal for a headphone of this caliber.

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Standard question: how disassemblable are the DT235? And how recableable?


The construction of the headphones seems very simple but I have to admit that I didn't bother to take off the pads as they are a non-standard shape and I really had nothing to replace them with. Perhaps jant71 can tell you. Recabling them is probably not easy as they are single-sided and the cable runs through the flat headband. And on the other side it is threaded trough a hole in the cup.

 

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Wow, amazing what just a few pieces of cotton can do. I stuffed up the earpads with a few cotton balls to raise them by maybe ~5 mm (~1/4"), and the comfort has increased phenomenally. My ears don't bottom out anymore and it relieves the pressure from being so close to the drivers (less fatigue). Sound is damped ever so slightly (moreso on the low end, which is ok since these cans are bass heavy) but slightly airier which is nice on the high end. The increased spacing means the clamping force is a tiny bit higher, but nothing an overnight stretch won't fix. Everyone who owns a pair ought to try this. It's $0.10 worth of material, takes one minute, and is fully reversible.

 

Cool, good to know. I can see how someone with larger ears can find the MS400s uncomfortable in stock configuration. Also I take back my saying that the MS400s have the softest pads - I think that honor goes to the Sony XB series.


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Preciate the heads up.  I just ordered one.  Don't think I'm quite ready to put down my HD25-1's just yet.  But, that's why so many of us have a wall full of headphones.  Lot's of options!  Looking forward to hearing the Beyer's though.  the only Beyer's I have ever owned were the DT880's but they were just too bright for my taste so I sold them. 


Yes, the DT770/250 was too bright for me as well but it seems that Beyer doesn't really have a house sound. The DT235 is certainly nothing like the DT770. If you like the HD25 the Beyers should make great backup cans. 

post #490 of 4545

Joker - I tried out the velour pads on my HD25's last night and I didn't notice a drop in bass either.  Sounded good on the low end.  Way more comfortable than the pleather pads.  But it seemed to me that the sound was a little veiled.  I only listened to 2 songs as it was late, so perhaps I just listened to a couple of poorly recorded songs.  Did you happen to lose any detail switching from the pleather to the velour pads? 

 

Going to give it a longer listen tonight.  Also, I could have just been tired.  I was certainly fumbling around getting them on.

post #491 of 4545
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Just came back from a lengthy walk to the post office with the HD25s. I usually wear my MS2i or other Grados but really, I don't feel that I'm sacrificing detail or clarity when using the HD25 instead. Pretty cool for a set of closed cans.


Regarding the veil w/velour pads, I'll have to dig up my HD25 box to A:B both sets again. I wouldn't rule it out but I haven't tried the pleather pads in 8 months or so. I didn't really spend much time with them in the first place as they made my ears sweat; I switched to the velours permanently when they arrived. Would be interested in more of your impressions as well.

post #492 of 4545

Do you know if there are any velour pads that would fit the MS400? I'm finding pleather just isn't my thing for earpads.

post #493 of 4545
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Originally Posted by Armaegis View Post

Do you know if there are any velour pads that would fit the MS400? I'm finding pleather just isn't my thing for earpads.


Can't say that I've thought about it. The MS400s are rather off-size when it comes to pads, being semi-circumaural and oval in shape. HD25 pads certainly won't fit and the pads off of circumaural cans won't either. Maybe the DT235 fabric pads though I don't think they're sold separately and they're slightly the wrong shape.

post #494 of 4545

Yeah, I kind of figured. The odd pad size is my one criticism of the MS400 (well, that and the skimpy cable). If I get bored and have some time I might try cutting up some socks to make pads. It shouldn't be too difficult with the way the pad frame clicks on and off.

post #495 of 4545

joker, do you think that the HA-M750 is as sensitive as the specs suggest? 115 dB @ 1V makes sense but not so much at 1mW considering they're also rated for 1W (<- haha).

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