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Just a note, you have the DT235 review in the "Build Quality" section of the SHP5400 / SHP5401 review.
Still getting used to the new site?

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Thanks, fixed. I've definitely been putting off updating this thread because it's such a pain now. Copy/paste often goes in weird places 

post #468 of 4545

how about those b&w p5s?

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Do you have a different sound quality scale for these compared with the IEMs? or can we compare the numbers directly? If not, then is there a linear shift in the scores?

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how about those b&w p5s?


Not in the works, partly because they are very expensive and partly because I don't want to attract the rabid B&W fanboyism seen in all of the existing P5 threads to this one.

 

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Do you have a different sound quality scale for these compared with the IEMs? or can we compare the numbers directly? If not, then is there a linear shift in the scores?


Hmm.. not really something I've considered at length. The sound quality scales are completely unrelated but looking at the numbers I think a direct comparison might work. The key points seem to match up - I really don't think the HD25-1 is as good as my higher-end IEMs but it can compete well with the ~$100 ones. I'd say overall there's no linear shift but a +/- 1 point leeway in either direction.

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Wow, the HD25's have the highest rating for the whole shootout, glad to know that. Say joker, would you recommend a recable to replace the steel one or should I stick with it? I've heard positive responses from swapping out the stock to a proper copper cable.

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Originally Posted by fella View Post

how about those b&w p5s?


Not in the works, partly because they are very expensive and partly because I don't want to attract the rabid B&W fanboyism seen in all of the existing P5 threads to this one.

 


That's sort of rediculous.  As far as I know there is one b&w p5 fanboy on head fi.  Gorgobmusic is not a category of people, he's a single annoying poster. He seems a silly reason not to include a portable on a list, and an even sillier reason to dislike it.. 

 

It would be interesting to see them compared to the phiaton ms400s, which at least here in canada are roughly the same price range and are attempting the same thing (fashionable higher end consumer portables that aren't for djs)


Edited by fella - 5/31/10 at 8:52pm
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Wow, the HD25's have the highest rating for the whole shootout, glad to know that. Say joker, would you recommend a recable to replace the steel one or should I stick with it? I've heard positive responses from swapping out the stock to a proper copper cable.

 

I've swapped the stock cable for the HD600 cable (and back). While it does give a noticeable improvement in sound, I would think twice about calling it 0.5 pts worth on my scale. They lose some of the treble edginess (a good thing IMO) and gain some control, body, and texture. However, the HD25 for me is a great portable set. I have other cans from home use. With the HD600 cable the HD25 lost most of its portable appeal. Of course the cable could be shortened and re-terminated and can probably be wired in a single-sided configuration. If I felt that the HD25-1 is the be-all end-all of portable headphones I would probably invest the $40 into doing that. But while I was putting it off the Phiatons came along and while they don't provide the clarity and detail of the HD25s, they give me all the body and smoothness I can handle. Very good compliments, these two. The cable upgrade can wait 
 

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I see. Well, I'm a bit sensitive with the HD25's treble harshness that I find it too sibilant at times. Maybe for you, the edginess is a good thing while it isn't so for me, so I think the copper cable will be for my own benefit. I'll just get one to satisfy my curiosity and post my own impressions of the two when the time comes. Thanks!


Edited by jjsoviet - 6/1/10 at 5:50am
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@joker: my phiaton ms 400 just arrived and im loving it. you're right that the sub bass doesnt extend deeply like the k181 but boy is it such a fun sounding phone. I think i even prefer it to my p5 and es10. Its like there's nothing wrong with the sound across the whole frequency. Build quality is very good too. thanks for the review. it made me buy them

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That's a very strong endorsement; personally I'd give it a couple of days . I suppose being more enjoyable than the P5/ES10 makes the MS400 look like a pretty good value, which I think it is all things considered, though I wouldn't pay the $200 for the sound alone. Pretty sure you're the only person who owns both the MS400 and P5 (never mind the ES10) so long-term impressions would probably be useful to many (though I'd be careful not to post them in any of the P5 threads ).

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Yes they are super fun sounding. Well maybe its the new toy syndrome but it somehow gives you a very smooth presentation whatever genre you play which is good for long hours of listening. I'm expecting after a few weeks of using it will sound better and even be more engaging. Not that p5/es10 is inferior to the ms400. imo, p5 is best at jazz/rock but when it comes to techno/hip hop it lacks that deep fast punch bass the es10 has. es10 on the other hand has visceral bass which is very fitting for pop/house/eletronica music. Ms400 is somewhat in between both bowers and AT. id give them 9/10 for sound quality alone

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@joker: my phiaton ms 400 just arrived and im loving it. you're right that the sub bass doesnt extend deeply like the k181 but boy is it such a fun sounding phone. I think i even prefer it to my p5 and es10. Its like there's nothing wrong with the sound across the whole frequency. Build quality is very good too. thanks for the review. it made me buy them

 

if you could do an indepth comparison of your p5s. es10s and ms400s it would be very useful.

post #479 of 4545

I've been meaning to write up a review of the MS400 as well. I also want to try modding the earpads a bit as soon as I can find some foam/fibre to fluff it up.

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Gah... I was doing so well for over half a year, and then I totally impulse bought the MS400 and PX200ii just a few minutes ago

The Sennheiser PX200 II is very good .
 

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