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I did not see the Hesh II.


 

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Originally Posted by roma101 View Post

Thanks for posting that |joker|. Can I ask what dap/amp you used to test out these cans? Those K550s definitely look pretty sweet. I am surprised though by your 'crap all around' comment on the Aviators though. I find that they sound better when amped but that's just my opinion. Besides the sound, I wish the build and isolation were better, especially for that price tag.



My usual Cowon J3. Regarding the Aviator, I thought the bass, while not nearly as exaggerated as with Skullcandy IEMs or Skullcushers/GIs, lacked depth, control, and texture (a case of 'one note' bass a-la Beats), the mids were plasticky, the treble lacked smoothness, and the presentation was rather flat (this very obvious in comparison to the Mix Master Mikes). The guy at the booth did mention that Skullcandy was re-tuning all of their products with a new sound engineer so maybe I got a 'new' Aviator. 


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Originally Posted by Robert-Hz View Post

Greetings!
I came to your topic to ask you some questions, I have the Pioneer SE-mj5 and I like their sound, of course, not technically the best that I have, but is the most "enjoyable", but I'm going to sell them because I can't use long time, they are too tight, so I want some similar sound (good bass, normal mid, great highs) but more comfortable.


 Compared to the-mj5 and Sony MDR-XB700.
 

 Which has more bass?
 Which has more mid / high?
 Which is more enjoyable?
 Which sounds more clear?
 

 I also thought about the models, Koss Pro DJ 100, Denon DN-HP700, actually also in several Audio Technica, but these are out of my price range, because in my country they cost twice as much.


Street Prices in my country. 

Sony XB700 $105

Koss dj100  $100

Denon hp700 $147

 

Audio technica M50 $220 (far from my budget)

 

 

To use just for music.

 

Genres that I normally hear: Rock, Ambient, Full-on, Trance, some Pop, D&B, Metal.

 

 

If you have any other suggestions, will be more than welcome.



You probably don't want the DJ100 or the HP700 - they'll both have less bass than the Pioneers. If you like the Pioneers, you're probably looking for a moderately bass-heavy or maybe slightly v-shaped headphone. The XB700 won't have the treble emphasis you're used to and its bass is more soft and smooth than hard and punchy a-la MJ5. I don't know if you have any other options but a Denon D1100 (assuming it doesn't have too much bass for you) or maybe something from Ultrasone would be a better match for the MJ5's signature .

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What a great gift! Very nice of you, I'm sure he'll love it. The HD25 is my most used headphone and I had wished they had a mic also so I'm sure the edition with the mic (and nice styling) coupled with the much better SQ, he'll be happy.



Actually, I already got my son the Dr Dre Beat Solo headphones. My son used his friend's headphones and already made up his mind. I couldn't convince him to go for the Sennheiser HD 25-1 II, but I purchased the HD 25-1 for myself. The good news, my son likes his headphones and I like mine!

 

I didn't like the Dr. Dre Beat Solos. I thought they were boomy and muddy sounding, but my son likes them. They are very comfortable with very soft ear cups and they look cool too, but the sound is not for me. The HD 25-1 sound is perfect for me!

 

My son did already break the mic/volume thing on the Dr. Dre. They come with a second wire without the controls, so he still has headphones but without the controls. I'm going to try to get a replacement wire, but they are backordered. Teenagers do break or lose things, at least mine does. 


Edited by ksing44 - 1/16/12 at 10:24am
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Originally Posted by ljokerl View Post

I've posted this in the IEM thread already, but here are my personal listening impressions from CES with the IEMs removed. I've broken them up into three categories. These are based on quick impressions against a couple of benchmark IEMs I brought with me.

 

Brand

Model (Price)

Type

Notes

Sets I was impressed by and would have loved to write a full review of

AKG / Harman

K550 ($300)

Closed, circumaural

Flat and pretty neutral, but punchy; good resolution, comfortable, excellent build quality, relatively easy to drive

K495 NC ($350)

Closed, supraaural, noise-cancelling

Very comfortable, excellent noise-canceling circuit, fun, reasonably clear sound with ANC off

House of Marley

Exodus ($150)

Closed, supraaural

Clear, well-balanced, good detail, comfortable

Skullcandy

Mix Master Mike ($300)

Closed, circumaural

Easily the best thing I’ve heard from Skullcandy. Rich feature set, nice design and isolation, balanced sound with a bump in the bass, very clean and enjoyable. Would be happier at $200 price point

Sets I was not unimpressed by but would need more time to evaluate properly

House of Marley

Stir it up ($200)

Closed, supraaural

Less controlled & clear than cheaper Exodus

Redemption Song ($200)

Closed, supraaural

Less controlled & clear than cheaper Exodus

Name unknown (price unknown)

Closed, circumaural

Unreleased circumaural headphone. Nice construction and very comfortable. Tuning not finalized; did not sound as good as Exodus

Scosche

RH1056m ($230)

Closed, circumaural

Surprisingly balanced for a Beats clone. Clean, punchy bass and smooth all around

Sets I was not impressed by

House of Marley

TTR Destiny ($300)

Closed, circumaural, noise-cancelling

Muddy and congested. Only works with ANC on

Logic3 / Ferrari

R300 ($300)

Closed, circumaural, noise-cancelling

Muddy and boomy, top-end roll-off, poor clarity. Only works with ANC on

Scosche

RH656md ($130)

Closed, supraaural

New on-ear headphones. Sounded boomy and flat

Skullcandy

Aviator ($150)

Closed, circumaural

Crap all around

 

 


 



Didn't ask, but the cable attachment seemed similar. I did not see the remote on any of the display units.


0o I really thought the aviators sounded really good

 

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I see, a ultrasone I've only seen one pair, I don't know the models but cost over $ 250, so the rule out, on the other hand, do not look for a sound equal to that of MJ5, the bass just to give a feeling of solidity to music, that gives a good base, but not to hit my head, i don't ask a "V" marked, as I am aware that finding a sound very similar to MJ5 would be very difficult, I reformulated my request, bass with a presence, normal mids and high with a little bit of presence, i means not very strong(like the MJ5, that has a lot of treble), just "audible" as for example my Sony PQ1 have good bass (not very clean), but with mid and high almost dead and my Sony SA1000 with very presense of mid and high (almost fatiguing ) but somewhat bass absent, however my M390 Pioneer have good bass, some mids off and regular high (but good), not much or too little.

 

You're right, a v-shaped, though not very marked, but a little identifiable.

 

I hope i not to bother you with much text.

 

So. the Koss and Denon are too far from the bass of the MJ5?

I guess the bass of the XB700 can give a more enjoyable listening to music (Most of all I seek presence, not so much impact), but the highs are very distant from the MJ5?

In both cases, is something that the EQ can't fix?

 

I really appreciate your attention!

 

Unfortunately I do not see any other possibility in my country, at least not in my price range, plus you can't hear the product unless you have already paid (with no return policy).


Edited by Robert-Hz - 1/16/12 at 1:40pm
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Originally Posted by Robert-Hz View Post

I see, a ultrasone I've only seen one pair, I don't know the models but cost over $ 250, so the rule out, on the other hand, do not look for a sound equal to that of MJ5, the bass just to give a feeling of solidity to music, that gives a good base, but not to hit my head, i don't ask a "V" marked, as I am aware that finding a sound very similar to MJ5 would be very difficult, I reformulated my request, bass with a presence, normal mids and high with a little bit of presence, i means not very strong(like the MJ5, that has a lot of treble), just "audible" as for example my Sony PQ1 have good bass (not very clean), but with mid and high almost dead and my Sony SA1000 with very presense of mid and high (almost fatiguing ) but somewhat bass absent, however my M390 Pioneer have good bass, some mids off and regular high (but good), not much or too little.

 

You're right, a v-shaped, though not very marked, but a little identifiable.

 

I hope i not to bother you with much text.

 

So. the Koss and Denon are too far from the bass of the MJ5?

I guess the bass of the XB700 can give a more enjoyable listening to music (Most of all I seek presence, not so much impact), but the highs are very distant from the MJ5?

In both cases, is something that the EQ can't fix?

 

I really appreciate your attention!

 

Unfortunately I do not see any other possibility in my country, at least not in my price range, plus you can't hear the product unless you have already paid (with no return policy).



Well, the DJ700 has more bass than the Sony SA5k (sorry, never heard the SA1k) but is not really bassy by DJ headphone standards. The HP1000 is quite a bit bassier but IMO not as good as the HP700 overall. The XB700 has pretty good mids and highs - there's certainly more bass than anything else but bleed is fairly low and the treble is nice and crisp.

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Ok, I will trust your opinion, as in some headphones I have, I agree with you, besides that I bought the MJ5 because i read your review, of which I regret only the presure, despite your warning about it, (I tried to make me the hard).

 

Anyway, I decide by Sony or Denon, when I'll have the boxes in front of and appreciate the things you've said, thank you very much for your help and patience.

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Edited by bmeat - 8/17/14 at 9:45am
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Just curious about the low-rated LP. I know it's of awful value at $200.

How about $100? Not-so-mediocre? Almost-decent? Or still awful value....?

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Originally Posted by bmeat View Post

i wonder how different the Superlux HD668B sounds from the Superlux HD681B? supposdly the Superlux HD681B has the same drivers as the k240studio/mkii so id be interested.

 

joker any chance youve heard the Superlux HD681B or know anything about it? which is "better"? i see the hd668 is more expensive on amazon.

 

many thanks



Sorry, I have zero experience with the HD681



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Originally Posted by NotSoSerious View Post

Just curious about the low-rated LP. I know it's of awful value at $200.

How about $100? Not-so-mediocre? Almost-decent? Or still awful value....?



Better, obviously, but you are still paying for the design and construction more so than the sound. Even if you're after heavy bass I'd say you are better off with the cheaper Sony XB700. 

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Originally Posted by ljokerl View Post



 



Better, obviously, but you are still paying for the design and construction more so than the sound. Even if you're after heavy bass I'd say you are better off with the cheaper Sony XB700. 


 

is it just me or did you find the xb700 very un dynamic and uneven sounding? I honestly hated the treble too.... The bass of course was lucious, and considering the mids were recessed to the extent that they were I thought they worked well with the bass.

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Originally Posted by WakiDabeast View Post


 

is it just me or did you find the xb700 very un dynamic and uneven sounding? I honestly hated the treble too.... The bass of course was lucious, and considering the mids were recessed to the extent that they were I thought they worked well with the bass.



For a reasonably cheap bass-heavy headphone with a large driver, I did not find anything notably wrong with the treble or dynamics. Not sure what 'uneven sounding' means but the XB series cans were clearly not tuned for a balanced sound reproduction.

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Originally Posted by ljokerl View Post


 



For a reasonably cheap bass-heavy headphone with a large driver, I did not find anything notably wrong with the treble or dynamics. Not sure what 'uneven sounding' means but the XB series cans were clearly not tuned for a balanced sound reproduction.


 

by uneven I meant I thought that their were awkward boosts in certain frequencies, I guess like a roller coast kinda, idk I didn't really like it much, honestly would prefer the xb500. 

post #2818 of 4545

Quick question about portable headphones here. So I was considering getting the AKG K518 LE's, which are about $45 on Amazon after shipping/tax. Pretty good deal. However, after checking out this thread, I started looking at the Sennheiser HD25-1 II. Brand new, they cost a ton more than the AKG's. However, I found a refurbished pair sold by Dahmart (on Amazon) for about $130. While this is way more than what I'd be paying for the AKG's, I figure this is a great deal for a fantastic pair of headphones. I'm still a little concerned about buying refurbished and from the vendor. Am I risking much? I feel like it'd be pretty safe, considering they claim to be an authorized Sennheiser dealer. However, the name is eerily to Dakmart, and whenever I try to google Dahmart, I get redirected to results for Dakmart. While this is most likely an unfortunate coincidence, I figure I should be cautious since I've heard terrible, terrible things about DAK. Any thoughts?

BTW, heres the link if thats any help
http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B000TDZOXG/ref=dp_olp_refurbished?ie=UTF8&qid=1326955622&sr=1-1&condition=refurbished
Thanks!


Edited by SerJ - 1/19/12 at 6:23pm
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Originally Posted by SerJ View Post

Quick question about portable headphones here. So I was considering getting the AKG K518 LE's, which are about $45 on Amazon after shipping/tax. Pretty good deal. However, after checking out this thread, I started looking at the Sennheiser HD25-1 II. Brand new, they cost a ton more than the AKG's. However, I found a refurbished pair sold by Dahmart (on Amazon) for about $130. While this is way more than what I'd be paying for the AKG's, I figure this is a great deal for a fantastic pair of headphones. I'm still a little concerned about buying refurbished and from the vendor. Am I risking much? I feel like it'd be pretty safe, considering they claim to be an authorized Sennheiser dealer. However, the name is eerily to Dakmart, and whenever I try to google Dahmart, I get redirected to results for Dakmart. While this is most likely an unfortunate coincidence, I figure I should be cautious since I've heard terrible, terrible things about DAK. Any thoughts?

BTW, heres the link if thats any help
http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B000TDZOXG/ref=dp_olp_refurbished?ie=UTF8&qid=1326955622&sr=1-1&condition=refurbished
Thanks!



Dahmart and Dakmart are one and the same. For what it's worth, they are indeed an official Sennheiser dealer. I've purchased Sennheiser products from them twice (MM400 and one of my HD428s) and both times the items were in perfect functional and good cosmetic condition. I also returned another item to them without issue. If you go for it, be sure to test the HD25 thoroughly when it arrives but I definitely do not have a problem recommending them as a seller. 

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Dahmart and Dakmart are one and the same. For what it's worth, they are indeed an official Sennheiser dealer. I've purchased Sennheiser products from them twice (MM400 and one of my HD428s) and both times the items were in perfect functional and good cosmetic condition. I also returned another item to them without issue. If you go for it, be sure to test the HD25 thoroughly when it arrives but I definitely do not have a problem recommending them as a seller. 


Okay, thanks. I think I might just wait and save up for a brand new pair of Sennheisers. Also, I'm still not sure how I feel about Dakmart. It seems like a lot of people have had some bad dealings with them, like on this thread.

 

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