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Originally Posted by turgid View Post

i've the xb 500...i agree they r cheap and are infact a heaven to wear.....but this being an audiophile forum i take it for granted that we are beyond looks and comfort...in this shootout there is equal emphasis on sound , comfort and build which practically is not the case...atleast i think the average score is messed up just because they are given equal value to sq and isolation......this shootout will be way better if its only skullcandys,beats and bose.....now that there are many amazing headphones in the budget range that makes you forget comfort and build like the hd668b or koss pro dj 100, i think that its enough proof that build and comfort should be rated on the same scale...



Seriously, what are you mad at?  I'm kind of getting tired of people giving joker here hard time about his point system.  I have no idea, why don't you start paying him to do this?  I mean he's doing it for free.  There is no money being made and most of us appreciate the time he takes to do this for us.  If you don't like it start your own thread or simply stay away from this thread.  Problem solved.

 


Edited by roker - 1/10/12 at 7:24am
post #2777 of 4545
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Seriously, what are you mad at?  I'm kind of getting tired of people giving joker here hard time about his point system.  I have no idea, why don't you start paying him to do this?  I mean he's doing it for free.  There is no money being made and most of us appreciate the time he takes to do this for us.  If you don't like it start your own thread or simply stay away from this thread.  Problem solved.

 

 

X2
 

joker, thank you again for this hugely ambitious and helpful thread. My new M-80s are indebted to you. biggrin.gif

 

post #2778 of 4545
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Originally Posted by turgid View Post

oh im sorry man ....i dint kno this guy had a following ...thank u joker... really good review .....hope that brings world peace to you 'roker' - what are u, joker's retarded twin brother?



 

At least I can form complete sentences!

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Alright, back to headphones. Thanks to whoever cleaned up the thread.

 

New HD25 variant: http://www.sennheiserusa.com/dj-headphones_505574

 

sennheiser-Amperior_silver_1.jpg

 

Logic dictates that I shouldn't want them since I'm perfectly happy with the industrial plastic of the regular HD25 and these will command a $150 premium.

post #2780 of 4545
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Originally Posted by roker View Post

If you meant in general, I still don't think price = comfort.  Case in point 50 dollar XB500s are ... 10X more comfortable (10 times, not joking) than the 200 dollar Sennheiser HD25-II

 

Comfort isn't even on the list of design requirements for the HD25.  It would conflict with trying to be small, isolating, and tough as nails all at the same time.
 

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Logic dictates that I shouldn't want them since I'm perfectly happy with the industrial plastic of the regular HD25 and these will command a $150 premium.


It says the Amperior version has an 18 ohm impedance.  The HD25-1-II and the Adidas version have the same 70 ohm driver and the SP version has a 60 ohm driver.  Who knows how it will sound with a new driver.

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Comfort isn't even on the list of design requirements for the HD25.  It would conflict with trying to be small, isolating, and tough as nails all at the same time.

 

yeah, for what it's supposed to do, I'm not even going to argue for a second that the HD25 accomplishes that.  But I just used it as an example to say higher price tags doesn't mean more comfort.  Every headphone is built different.

post #2782 of 4545
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Originally Posted by ljokerl View Post

Alright, back to headphones. Thanks to whoever cleaned up the thread.

 

New HD25 variant: http://www.sennheiserusa.com/dj-headphones_505574

 

sennheiser-Amperior_silver_1.jpg

 

Logic dictates that I shouldn't want them since I'm perfectly happy with the industrial plastic of the regular HD25 and these will command a $150 premium.



It's be nice ot have a more portable friendly cable.  That was one of my complaints about the original HD25.

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Comfort isn't even on the list of design requirements for the HD25.  It would conflict with trying to be small, isolating, and tough as nails all at the same time.
 


It says the Amperior version has an 18 ohm impedance.  The HD25-1-II and the Adidas version have the same 70 ohm driver and the SP version has a 60 ohm driver.  Who knows how it will sound with a new driver.



Good catch, didn't check the specs. 

 

I've been using the Senn MM400 a lot lately and despite its flimsier consumer-oriented design I don't find it any more comfortable than the HD25. Same goes for AKG's Q460.

post #2784 of 4545

Very cool thread. Thank you for making it. I haven't had the time to go through it all yet, but I am sure it will help me pick a set of good headphones for the gym.

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the es10 has more bass power than the studios?!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!? 

Anyway how would you compare strictly the bass of the es10,esw9, d1100, and M80, which would make me feel the bass in hip hop music the most. 

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the es10 has more bass power than the studios?!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!? 

Anyway how would you compare strictly the bass of the es10,esw9, d1100, and M80, which would make me feel the bass in hip hop music the most. 

Haven't heard any of them, but the D1100 is the only one that's got a reputation for being particularly bass-heavy.

post #2787 of 4545

d1100 is a nice up front impactful bassy headphone.  


It's what the xb500 would be if it was more refined.

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Originally Posted by WakiDabeast View Post

the es10 has more bass power than the studios?!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!? 

Anyway how would you compare strictly the bass of the es10,esw9, d1100, and M80, which would make me feel the bass in hip hop music the most. 



The D1100 is the only bass monster there. In terms of bass power it would be something like:

 

D1100 >> ES10 > M-80 >= ESW9A

 

It's difficult to compare textured, detailed bass like that of the ES10 to hollow, boomy, one-note bass like that of the Studios. Even with the same amount of impact the Studios will seem bassier. I would say they're about even in bass qty when all is said and done but it's been a while since I heard the beats.

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Originally Posted by ljokerl View Post

Alright, back to headphones. Thanks to whoever cleaned up the thread.

 

New HD25 variant: http://www.sennheiserusa.com/dj-headphones_505574

 

sennheiser-Amperior_silver_1.jpg

 

Logic dictates that I shouldn't want them since I'm perfectly happy with the industrial plastic of the regular HD25 and these will command a $150 premium.


x2 That's the first HD25 variant that I actually find appealing (I'm a big fan of the black industrial design). Weird that it contains a different driver though, wonder how it sounds.

 

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Originally Posted by ljokerl View Post


 



The D1100 is the only bass monster there. In terms of bass power it would be something like:

 

D1100 >> ES10 > M-80 >= ESW9A

 

It's difficult to compare textured, detailed bass like that of the ES10 to hollow, boomy, one-note bass like that of the Studios. Even with the same amount of impact the Studios will seem bassier. I would say they're about even in bass qty when all is said and done but it's been a while since I heard the beats.

yeah I get confused with the different types of bass, like for the ms400 it was more warmth than punch, for the hd25 it was more punch than anything but still a lot of impact, and for the m50 it was more impact (as in I could feel it). Is my interpretation of the vocab correct ?XD For the studios it was a crap load of impact, and nothing else.  i was hoping for near ball rattling impact, probably a little more than the m80 and m50. Not quite studio level because anything but trash lil wayne hip hop sounded really bad and so undynamic. 
 

 

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