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post #2761 of 4545

Comparing Denon DN-HP700 to CAL!   I am 61 years of age and my hearing really tails over 14kH.  In spite of that, I value a linear response curve. Also a decent soundstage, low grain, bass.  Yeh, I guess I want it all, don't I? these days I listen mostly to indie (Cults, PandaBear, FosterthePeople, etc.).  My home speakers are Lowthers with 2A3 tube amplification. I do have Tone Tubbys for bass. Anyone care to hazard a guess as to which of these cans I might like better?  Or are they simply so close as to make a choice difficult.  I am new to this, and only have REO's to compare. I would use them out of a laptop with a small amp. Thanks.

post #2762 of 4545
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Originally Posted by garysohn View Post

Comparing Denon DN-HP700 to CAL!   I am 61 years of age and my hearing really tails over 14kH.  In spite of that, I value a linear response curve. Also a decent soundstage, low grain, bass.  Yeh, I guess I want it all, don't I? these days I listen mostly to indie (Cults, PandaBear, FosterthePeople, etc.).  My home speakers are Lowthers with 2A3 tube amplification. I do have Tone Tubbys for bass. Anyone care to hazard a guess as to which of these cans I might like better?  Or are they simply so close as to make a choice difficult.  I am new to this, and only have REO's to compare. I would use them out of a laptop with a small amp. Thanks.



wow.  I'm 34 years of age and I can't listen to Foster the People

post #2763 of 4545

Nevermind, have you ever listened to the New Lp2's? Supposedly their not only limited edition, but sound better. The M80's just seem a tad bit too neutral for my tastes, and not enough isolation. Or am I wrong? With what I read, the M80 is relatively neutral... I'm coming from Mee M31's...

 

The Lp's seem to have mediocre sound... just curious about the lp2's...


Edited by NotSoSerious - 1/8/12 at 8:00pm
post #2764 of 4545

yeh, well I guess there are only a few of their songs that I routinely listen to, but Animal Collective,  Architecture in Helsinki, She and Him, Tennis, Imperial Teen, Surgeons in Heat. I think we are kinda in a Golden Age of music, but I still listen to Mink de Ville, and The Kinks, and Doug Sahm.  I forgot I have a pair of Superluxe 661. I like 'em, but I got the bug.

post #2765 of 4545

Anyone, including Joker, want to offer me some advice (see bottom of page 184).  Not that I am nagging, just getting excited...

post #2766 of 4545
Thread Starter 


 

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Originally Posted by matthew23 View Post

Joker,

 

Thanks for the excellant review. This is a great resource for people starting out their collection in learning what they like and don't like as well as what they expect from their headphones. I recently started getting into "better" headphones you have found it quite daunting.  So far I've been able to find some pretty good deals through Amazon on some great earbuds and headphones, including the UE TripleFi 10;s, Sennheiser 448s, Klipsch s4i & s51, as well as the Image Ones.  I also have some various earbuds I have collected through deals, et.c (Meelectronics, etc.)  I splurged and bought the B&W P5s as my "babys."  So far, I have used them as my everyday headphones but winters in Chicago can be harsh and I am not sure I want to use them everyday for my walk to the train and then to work and back.  The Image Ones have been good for that though.  I bought the V-moda which sounded great but pinched my ears a little bit too much and were uncomfortable - maybe I didn't give them enough time . 

 

Still, I want to keep hearing new cans.  Although I am open to any recommendations, I have narrowed my next pair down to three possibilities.  I aim to spend between 100 and $200.  So far, I am interested in the Sennheiser 25HD1-IIs, the Grado SR60i (or 80i) or possibly giving the V-Moda M80's another shot.  I did like them but could only wear them for about an hour before my left ear would start hurting.  They were a bit bassy for my tastes although I didn't mind.  

 

For reference, I like the B&Ws because of their "natural" sound (sorry, I do not have the lingo down yet).  That doesn't mean I won't like any other type of cans though - I guess I am not sure what I like.  I listen to a lot of rock, punk, indie....not so much hip-hop.

 

Any recommendations?   I am open to anything within the price range I mentioned above. I would like to on-ear headphones, as I have a small head and some of the full size cans look ridiculous (not that that should matter, but when I am riding the train or walking through the city I get a bit self-conscious (I know this through various sunglass purchases, etc and know it will be the same with cans).  But, again him open to anything that might be recommended. 

 

Also, for more information, I mainly use my iPhone 4S as my main player and do not have any amps. I am researching portable amplifiers so if you have any recommendations as to those, I am open as well.  I just don't want to break the bank at this point while I am still trying to figure out what I like don't like.

 

Thanks again and sorry for the long post. Anyone is welcome to chime in.  

 

 



If you weren't looking for on-ear, I would maybe think of holding off for the M-100, which should be the more comfortable circumaural variant of the M-80. The HD25 is also more comfortable than the M-80 with these ears but the way it fits is similar. Grado comfort is also hit or miss - some never get used to the foam pads. With that budget I would maybe go for an Alessandro MS1 over the SR60 or SR80 if going for a Grado. 

 



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Originally Posted by garysohn View Post

Comparing Denon DN-HP700 to CAL!   I am 61 years of age and my hearing really tails over 14kH.  In spite of that, I value a linear response curve. Also a decent soundstage, low grain, bass.  Yeh, I guess I want it all, don't I? these days I listen mostly to indie (Cults, PandaBear, FosterthePeople, etc.).  My home speakers are Lowthers with 2A3 tube amplification. I do have Tone Tubbys for bass. Anyone care to hazard a guess as to which of these cans I might like better?  Or are they simply so close as to make a choice difficult.  I am new to this, and only have REO's to compare. I would use them out of a laptop with a small amp. Thanks.


HP700 sounds more like what you're after. It'll easily have more bass than the RE0 without giving up too much of that accuracy or neutral tone.


 

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Originally Posted by NotSoSerious View Post

Nevermind, have you ever listened to the New Lp2's? Supposedly their not only limited edition, but sound better. The M80's just seem a tad bit too neutral for my tastes, and not enough isolation. Or am I wrong? With what I read, the M80 is relatively neutral... I'm coming from Mee M31's...

 

The Lp's seem to have mediocre sound... just curious about the lp2's...


I have not heard the LP2s. M-80 does not have the same bass boost as an M31 but its bass is slightly north of netural. Isolation is more or less average for a higher-end on-ear. If you're looking for higher isolation and lots of bass, take a look at Denon's D1100. 

 

post #2767 of 4545

Ordered M80 last night and eager for them to try on for portable use...

 

I have the Denon AHD1100. A bit bassy for my taste, but I got used to it because it has a very deep unbelievable 3D soundstage. Or maybe I have more bassier IEMs - better quantity and quality-wise (FX700, JH16s) than these cans. I used it for watching Movies and Series, for Music and Playing XBOX 360 Games at home. Overall they are all-arounder with a very punchy mid-bass with a very good Isolation. The downside is the cable that twirled already past the y-split, it bothers me because it already tightened up to my neck. I had to recable them but it will cost me near the price of the headphone. So I decided to order a more quality headphone like M80.

 

I hope M80 will not disappoint me compared to my other headphones on price over value and SQ (LCD2, Senn HD558, Denon 1100). Maybe this will be my next all-arounder. I hope isolation is also okay. More impressions will be posted when they come...

post #2768 of 4545
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Originally Posted by ljokerl View Post


I have not heard the LP2s. M-80 does not have the same bass boost as an M31 but its bass is slightly north of netural. Isolation is more or less average for a higher-end on-ear. If you're looking for higher isolation and lots of bass, take a look at Denon's D1100. 

 


 

Though the Denon's do look attractive, I'm not quite sure I am quite hardcore, headphone vibrating bass head. I like my bass, but I listen to quite a range of different genre's ( actually just r&b, hip-hop, and a small touch of Pop, haha. ) so the midrange and especially the vocals are still important to me. 

 

I am not sure if I should take a gamble and just try out the LP2's, or if I should just stay in safe waters with the M80 or the D1100..

Better do my research!!~ 


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Alright anyways, thanks very much joker. 

 


Edited by NotSoSerious - 1/9/12 at 5:50pm
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Originally Posted by NotSoSerious View Post


 

Though the Denon's do look attractive, I'm not quite sure I am quite hardcore, headphone vibrating bass head. I like my bass, but I listen to quite a range of different genre's ( actually just r&b, hip-hop, and a small touch of Pop, haha. ) so the midrange and especially the vocals are still important to me. 

 

I am not sure if I should take a gamble and just try out the LP2's, or if I should just stay in safe waters with the M80 or the D1100..

Better do my research!!~ 


wink_face.gif

 

 

Alright anyways, thanks very much joker. 

 


Wait for the M-100. Should be out soon.

 

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Originally Posted by NotSoSerious View Post


 

Though the Denon's do look attractive, I'm not quite sure I am quite hardcore, headphone vibrating bass head. I like my bass, but I listen to quite a range of different genre's ( actually just r&b, hip-hop, and a small touch of Pop, haha. ) so the midrange and especially the vocals are still important to me. 

 

I am not sure if I should take a gamble and just try out the LP2's, or if I should just stay in safe waters with the M80 or the D1100..

Better do my research!!~ 


wink_face.gif

 

 

Alright anyways, thanks very much joker. 

 


If that's all you listen to, then the D1100 might fit your needs.  It's a nice pleasing headphone to listen in general, but not as versatile as it's older brother the D2000.

 

I've never tried the M80, but I will say on ear portables will get on your nerves if you care about comfort.

 

just my $0.02

 

post #2771 of 4545

come on ....u cant really rate the build and comfort of cans under 50$ in the same scale as the more expensive ones...

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Originally Posted by turgid View Post

come on ....u cant really rate the build and comfort of cans under 50$ in the same scale as the more expensive ones...


I'm not sure who you're talking to but:

 

Denon D1100 MSRP 199

V-Moda M-80 MSRP 199

Denon D2000 MSRP 349

 

 

V-Moda M-100 ... 199?

 

 

etc.

 

If you meant in general, I still don't think price = comfort.  Case in point 50 dollar XB500s are ... 10X more comfortable (10 times, not joking) than the 200 dollar Sennheiser HD25-II

post #2773 of 4545

i've the xb 500...i agree they r cheap and are infact a heaven to wear.....but this being an audiophile forum i take it for granted that we are beyond looks and comfort...in this shootout there is equal emphasis on sound , comfort and build which practically is not the case...atleast i think the average score is messed up just because they are given equal value to sq and isolation......this shootout will be way better if its only skullcandys,beats and bose.....now that there are many amazing headphones in the budget range that makes you forget comfort and build like the hd668b or koss pro dj 100, i think that its enough proof that build and comfort should be rated on the same scale...


Edited by ayaflo - 1/10/12 at 3:58am
post #2774 of 4545

i've the XB500 and it  is above 50$ in this shootout ...and this being an audiophile forum i take it for granted that some under 50$ cans like the rp-htf600 and the hd 681 have enough sound quality to forgive their comfort and build which is enough proof that both comfort and build should be rated on the same scale...and it is very much certain that AUDIOPHILE = sound quality over anythin else...

post #2775 of 4545

sorry to post twice to say the same thing .,,,THEN AGAIN!!!!      >>>>>>>> (TRUTH IS NEVER TIRING)beerchug.gif

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