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Originally Posted by ljokerl View Post

I think personal preferences matter much more than your choice of music. Just because I like the ESW9A for rock doesn't mean you will.

 


I see what you mean, well I enjoy warm, punchy bass, a lush midrange and highs that are sparkly but not too much, as this I feel interferes witht the rest of the audio spectrum, which i enjoy more.

 

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Hey Joker,

 

I would just like to thank you for this incredibly informative and well-ordered thread.

 

I currently have a shortlist for a portable setup of mine:

Sony MDR-ZX700

Sony MDR-V6

Koss Pro DJ 100 + Fiio E11

 

Around here, they all cost round the same price, with the Koss costing slightly more with the amp.

I heard the Koss is pretty power-hungry, but sounds great with vocals. Does it do well enough in other genres to match up to something that is as all-rounded as the MDR-ZX700, which needs no dedicated portable amplifier, and justify the cost of including the amp? Or would you suggest the V6? I also liked the SRH440 stock, and found it fantastic, though just very slightly too dry for music enjoyment. So preferably, I would like a more musical SRH440.

 

I listen to mainly:

Jazz

Alternative (Radiohead etc.)

Soundtracks

J-Pop.

 

I would also prefer a decently large/deep soundstage, and something with articulate bass - not too deep - I found bass on the M50 to be highly excessive, and the treble to be extremely artificial. I would prefer something that is clear, but relatively smooth and non-fatiguing with an emphasis on mids and great genre bandwidth.



If you thought the M50 was way too bassy, I wouldn't really recommend the V6, especially if you're after midrange emphasis. The ZX700 is smooth and not too bassy and would be my recommendation from how I'm reading your question. Aside from its questionable portability, it should be more up your alley than the V6. Unfortunately it's difficult to guess how the DJ100 will perform with the E11, unless you can find someone who has tried the combo. Good thing about the DJ100 is that it's easy to buy retail and return if you don't like it. The Denon DN-HP700 might be worth looking into as well. Not sure if anyone else has bought one since I reviewed it so the research you can do on it may be limited. It's less picky than the DJ100, though.

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I tried out the Ultrasone HFI 580 in B & H today and I was blown away! The sound quality seriously earns the title of "High-End Audio". The comfort and isolation are also a success and the build quality is slightly above average. I'm gonna buy me a set, but first I should compare it to the others such as the Beyerdynamic DT 990 and the Audio Technica ATH M50. Then I'll see how will come home with me, with purchasing of course. wink_face.gif

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Sorry for the ambiguity; what I meant to ask you was if you thought a well-matched DJ100 with a portable amp would be a better choice than an unamped ZX700 in terms of overall competence, refinement and resolution. They both seems to fit my tastes somewhat. I am very much a soundstage/imaging junkie that loves his mids. I would prefer bass that is not too heavy, tight and refined. No opinions of treble, but as long as it is not discernably sibilant.

 

Thanks again forr this wonderful thread!

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If you thought the M50 was way too bassy, I wouldn't really recommend the V6, especially if you're after midrange emphasis. The ZX700 is smooth and not too bassy and would be my recommendation from how I'm reading your question. Aside from its questionable portability, it should be more up your alley than the V6. Unfortunately it's difficult to guess how the DJ100 will perform with the E11, unless you can find someone who has tried the combo. Good thing about the DJ100 is that it's easy to buy retail and return if you don't like it. The Denon DN-HP700 might be worth looking into as well. Not sure if anyone else has bought one since I reviewed it so the research you can do on it may be limited. It's less picky than the DJ100, though.



 

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I would say that the DJ100 is the more analytical of the two headphones. With a good amp it will be more resolving but still not as smooth as the ZX700. If you want mid-centric, I think the ZX700 does that a little better. The Koss is the more balanced set. Neither has bass that is anywhere near overwhelming IMO.
 

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Sorry for the ambiguity; what I meant to ask you was if you thought a well-matched DJ100 with a portable amp would be a better choice than an unamped ZX700 in terms of overall competence, refinement and resolution. They both seems to fit my tastes somewhat. I am very much a soundstage/imaging junkie that loves his mids. I would prefer bass that is not too heavy, tight and refined. No opinions of treble, but as long as it is not discernably sibilant.

 

Thanks again forr this wonderful thread!



 



 

post #2151 of 4545
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I see what you mean, well I enjoy warm, punchy bass, a lush midrange and highs that are sparkly but not too much ...


Joker, is that what im looking for? do the esw9's produce this kind of sound?

 

Thanks,

 

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Joker, is that what im looking for? do the esw9's produce this kind of sound?

 

Thanks,

 



I think so

post #2153 of 4545

Great article Joker,

 

I was just wondering though,

You have the Audio-Technica ATH-M50 listed at $119 street price, but I can't seem to find that price anywhere. Did they just go back up in price, or is there somewhere I can find them for that price, because I only see them at $159 lowest. And, if that is the price now, would you still consider them as good of a value or something else?

 

Thanks

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which iem do you think has the most bass? The Arctic Sound E361 Radius Atomic Bass 2, Yamaha EPH-50BL, MEElectronics M31-BK, MEElectronics RX-11-BK. Any suggestions on BASSSSSSSS iems under $70?

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Today I went to B & H again to try out the Sennheiser HD800, Audio Technica ATH M50, and Beyerdynamic DT 990 Pro. All I have to say is that, it's pretty hard to decide which one I want. Although it seems that the Beyerdynamic DT 990 Pro and the Ultrasone HFI 580 are the two that caught my attention the most. They are tied when it comes to bass quality, but the midrange and treble is better on the HFI 580. It's clear, crisp and very detailed. The soundstage is also above average, along with the build quality, comfort, and isolation. I'm going to end up buying the HFI 580 eventually because my ears can't resist anymore. basshead.gif

post #2156 of 4545
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Originally Posted by makingoneup View Post

Great article Joker,

 

I was just wondering though,

You have the Audio-Technica ATH-M50 listed at $119 street price, but I can't seem to find that price anywhere. Did they just go back up in price, or is there somewhere I can find them for that price, because I only see them at $159 lowest. And, if that is the price now, would you still consider them as good of a value or something else?

 

Thanks


Price on these seems to fluctuate but lately <130 is more the exception than the rule. A year ago you could often find them for $89-99. I suppose I need to raise the price in the table.

 

Still a good value in my book - just take a half point off the value score. They still do very well overall.

 



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Originally Posted by MuzicLife View Post

which iem do you think has the most bass? The Arctic Sound E361 Radius Atomic Bass 2, Yamaha EPH-50BL, MEElectronics M31-BK, MEElectronics RX-11-BK. Any suggestions on BASSSSSSSS iems under $70?


Wrong thread but of those the M31. It's the only one of those that's truly a bass monster on par with Sony's XB and TDK's EB series earphones.

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Have you tried the Grado SR80i? The price difference between the Audio-Technica ATH-M50 and the Grado SR80i has me wondering which one I would prefer. From what I understand the Audio-Technica ATH-M50 are studio quality, while the Grado are more for rock music.

 

It's not that I can't pay the extra $60 for the Audio-Technica, but I was just wondering whether or not you thought there would be a significant difference over the Grado SR80i.

 

Thanks again

post #2158 of 4545
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Originally Posted by makingoneup View Post

Have you tried the Grado SR80i? The price difference between the Audio-Technica ATH-M50 and the Grado SR80i has me wondering which one I would prefer. From what I understand the Audio-Technica ATH-M50 are studio quality, while the Grado are more for rock music.

 

It's not that I can't pay the extra $60 for the Audio-Technica, but I was just wondering whether or not you thought there would be a significant difference over the Grado SR80i.

 

Thanks again

    

     I'll try out the Grado SR80i tomorrow and give some details about it. :)
 

 

post #2159 of 4545
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Originally Posted by ljokerl View Post



Price on these seems to fluctuate but lately <130 is more the exception than the rule. A year ago you could often find them for $89-99. I suppose I need to raise the price in the table.

 

Still a good value in my book - just take a half point off the value score. They still do very well overall.

 




Wrong thread but of those the M31. It's the only one of those that's truly a bass monster on par with Sony's XB and TDK's EB series earphones.


Oh my bad >_< Im new. But one more question please! Are the Atrio X Mg 5 more deadly in bass than the M31?

post #2160 of 4545
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Originally Posted by Niyologist View Post

Today I went to B & H again to try out the Sennheiser HD800, Audio Technica ATH M50, and Beyerdynamic DT 990 Pro. All I have to say is that, it's pretty hard to decide which one I want. Although it seems that the Beyerdynamic DT 990 Pro and the Ultrasone HFI 580 are the two that caught my attention the most. They are tied when it comes to bass quality, but the midrange and treble is better on the HFI 580. It's clear, crisp and very detailed. The soundstage is also above average, along with the build quality, comfort, and isolation. I'm going to end up buying the HFI 580 eventually because my ears can't resist anymore. basshead.gif


What was the HD800 connected to out of curiosity?  Btw, I liked the HFI580 a lot!  It had one big flaw for me though.

 


Edited by Anaxilus - 6/21/11 at 9:53pm
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