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post #1186 of 4545

first impressions on the denon P372 are not good.

 

they feel pretty cheap and the plastics make noises when i move them, the bass is OK, but i think the mids are way to boosted for my taste, the vocals on some tracks soubds totally different to what im used to. but just 30 minutes listening so far lol, Joker, do they change much after some burn in?

 

if anyone offers me the P372 and ath fc700 traded for my Equation RP15, i'd tell him to go *********** biggrin.gif

the rp15 are like 10$ more? and by zeus! they sound like pros when compared, and its just a little more bulkier than those two when folded,

post #1187 of 4545
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Originally Posted by ilia7777 View Post

I just wanted to say that I just got myself another pair of headphones DENON AH-D1001. I was lucky to get them only 2 month old and without paying too much. Now I'm 100% happy. They've got everything I was looking for: comfort, design and of course the sound. The bass is soft and pleasant, the mids are very much present and the highs are just the way I like them and most importantly they sound great unamped from iPod.

 

On a different note, the tiny 99 cents on ebay (believe it or not) FiiO E3 amp does miracle to my Ultrasones HFI 780. Of course its not an adequate amp for this headphone, I will be getting a much better one, but it makes them portable as well, they are big and not the most comfortable, but the sound with this tiny amp improved drastically. While this thing adds too much bass to the DENONS and they actually better unamped, the Ultrasones seem to have no problem handling the extra bass.


Congrats on the D1001. I'm not a huge fan of the Fiio toys but hey - whatever works. E3 had terrible interference from other devices, too. 

 


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Ahhh the PHX Pro seem very fitting to my requirements.  Thanks for pointing that out!  I think I have something to use my $100 Amazon gift card for :P.

 

Again, thanks!


Amazon carries the PHX Pro and the PHX USB+Analog. Not sure what the difference is but the latter is a lot cheaper. Wonder how the USB connection is done.. separate DAC cable? Adapter?
 

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Originally Posted by JamesMcProgger View Post

first impressions on the denon P372 are not good.

 

they feel pretty cheap and the plastics make noises when i move them, the bass is OK, but i think the mids are way to boosted for my taste, the vocals on some tracks soubds totally different to what im used to. but just 30 minutes listening so far lol, Joker, do they change much after some burn in?

 

if anyone offers me the P372 and ath fc700 traded for my Equation RP15, i'd tell him to go *********** biggrin.gif

the rp15 are like 10$ more? and by zeus! they sound like pros when compared, and its just a little more bulkier than those two when folded,


I don't know - I got mine well-used. I don't remember the upper mids being boosted or prominent... or notable in any way. Maybe a little plasticky in tone but the whole headphone sounds like that. Bass should be tight and punchy - none of that muddy fart-bass from the FC700.

 

If budget phones added up to higher-end sets en masse I'd have the equivalent of a JH3A in terms of IEMs and an Ultrasone Ed10 when it comes to portables. Unfortunately it doesn't work like that.

post #1188 of 4545

I'm bookmarking this. So helpful.

post #1189 of 4545

I just received my ATH-ES7s and they sound amazing right out of the box compared to my cheap $20 Sony IEMs. This is my first pair of headphones, so I'm not really used to having a set of headphones around me in terms of comfort. I've been using IEMs for a couple years, but never any nice ones haha.

 

I can DEFINITELY tell the difference between the ES7 and my cheap earphones. Thanks Joker for helping me pick, even though you were somewhat against the ES7 haha. :)

post #1190 of 4545
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I just received my ATH-ES7s and they sound amazing right out of the box compared to my cheap $20 Sony IEMs. This is my first pair of headphones, so I'm not really used to having a set of headphones around me in terms of comfort. I've been using IEMs for a couple years, but never any nice ones haha.

 

I can DEFINITELY tell the difference between the ES7 and my cheap earphones. Thanks Joker for helping me pick, even though you were somewhat against the ES7 haha. :)

Good choice with the ES7. I'm actually about to invest in a pair of ESW9s. I can't wait!
 

post #1191 of 4545
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Added Meelec HT-21 and Soundmagic P20 smily_headphones1.gif

 

 

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Originally Posted by faideelah View Post

I just received my ATH-ES7s and they sound amazing right out of the box compared to my cheap $20 Sony IEMs. This is my first pair of headphones, so I'm not really used to having a set of headphones around me in terms of comfort. I've been using IEMs for a couple years, but never any nice ones haha.

 

I can DEFINITELY tell the difference between the ES7 and my cheap earphones. Thanks Joker for helping me pick, even though you were somewhat against the ES7 haha. :)



Ha, it's not that I don't think the ES7 is good - it very much is, especially next to cheap earphones - it's just not among my personal favorites due to the fit and relatively high-maintenance finish. Glad you like it though wink.gif

post #1192 of 4545

Yeah, I can definitely see myself going crazy over a scratch or a few fingerprints haha. The fit was pretty tight at first, but once I stretched it out and bent the elbows a bit, it feels a lot better. I might get some velour pads to make it even more comfortable. :D
 

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Added Meelec HT-21 and Soundmagic P20 smily_headphones1.gif

 

 

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Originally Posted by faideelah View Post

I just received my ATH-ES7s and they sound amazing right out of the box compared to my cheap $20 Sony IEMs. This is my first pair of headphones, so I'm not really used to having a set of headphones around me in terms of comfort. I've been using IEMs for a couple years, but never any nice ones haha.

 

I can DEFINITELY tell the difference between the ES7 and my cheap earphones. Thanks Joker for helping me pick, even though you were somewhat against the ES7 haha. :)



Ha, it's not that I don't think the ES7 is good - it very much is, especially next to cheap earphones - it's just not among my personal favorites due to the fit and relatively high-maintenance finish. Glad you like it though wink.gif

post #1193 of 4545

So I have to ask.  After reading your review on the HT-21, how did you come up with the rating?  Your review definitely leads me to believe that you really like these little headphones.  But the rating kind of puts them middle of the road.  Not poor, but not that great.  Is there something other than sound that might have knocked the rating down a bit? 

 

Nice review though.  Definitely makes me want to find where you can buy them and take a shot. 

post #1194 of 4545
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So I have to ask.  After reading your review on the HT-21, how did you come up with the rating?  Your review definitely leads me to believe that you really like these little headphones.  But the rating kind of puts them middle of the road.  Not poor, but not that great.  Is there something other than sound that might have knocked the rating down a bit? 

 

Nice review though.  Definitely makes me want to find where you can buy them and take a shot. 

 

Well this is a first - usually people ask why a score is so high tongue.gif. I suppose I have to answer, then.


The rating is a relative thing - it tells you how I feel the HT-21 fits in among established headphones in technical ability - in this case just above stuff like the PortaPros and PX100s but not quite up there with the DHP-II and PX200-II. My personal like/dislike of a sound signature may show through in the wording of the review but I try to take preference out of the equation when it comes to scoring. I did say that the HT-21 will not be confused for a high-end set due to the limited dynamic range of the drivers and the relatively low detail level compared to something truly high-end like the HD25-1. I guess sonic perfection for $40 is impossible even for MEE.

 

Oh and re: availability - I would expect that Meelec's site is the only place to get them since they're still only on pre-order (at $5 off MSRP).


Edited by ljokerl - 12/15/10 at 9:48pm
post #1195 of 4545

I have to put in a hearty recommendation for the Creative HQ-1600's to be reviewed.

 

Compared to the DHP ii's these are more of what most would call an audiophile phone. The bass is just as, if not more, powerful yet less intrusive and so quick it can stop on a dime. It gives a nice foundation to the mids which make the phones lean ever so slightly to the warm side. However the bass simply isn't there unless it's on the recording... and isn't that how it should be? The kid on Amazon who said there is no bass either:

 

A. Didn't listen to anything with bass on it.

 

Or, more likely...

 

B. Wanted boom boom boom and didn't get it.

 

In fact the bass can be so powerful that when I popped on Michael Jackson's Billie Jean I had it up a tad too high and the introductory bass line almost made me nauseous. This isn't a fault of the phones Billie Jean just has a tremendously extreme bass line. The same thing happens when I listen to it on my 7K reference speakers.

 

The other thing about these is that they are relatively flat throughout the spectrum, and perhaps more importantly, extremely detailed. You will hear every little nuance of a recording. People listening to anything less than lossless recordings should probably find another phone.

 

The mids are nice and very, very slightly warm as I said earlier. Basically, whatever is on the recording you play is what you'll get. So if the recording has nice, liquid mids then that's what you'll hear.

 

The highs seemingly extend forever without ever becoming piercing or sibilant.

 

I was slightly disappointed when I first received these because what I thought was perforated copper alloy was actually dimpled faux copper alloy. So these are completely closed cans.

 

Disappointment didn't last too long though. Upon listening I noticed that, while the stage wasn't very wide, it definitely had a good depth too it. Instrument placement is excellent.

 

I could go on and on about these phones but I'll just say that they are my new favorites in the under $50 category and receive my highest recommendation. If you are looking for an inexpensive MONITOR these are your phones. If you are simply looking for a low priced phone that is accurate and relatively flat without sounding boring then these are your phones.   

 

They also seem to be very well built while being remarkably light. The clamping force is perfect on my head, but as always, YMMV.

 

Let me put it this way - If the Maxell DHP ii's were the KSC75's then the Creative HQ-1600's would be the Aiwa Shellz.

 

I love these phones. Please think about reviewing them when you get the chance. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

EDIT: Oh, and thank you, James for pointing these out.


Edited by Olimoronio - 12/16/10 at 7:35am
post #1196 of 4545

nice new additions Joker, very useful and pleasant to read as usual.
 

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I have to put in a hearty recommendation for the Creative HQ-1600's to be reviewed.

 

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EDIT: Oh, and thank you, James for pointing these out.


great! one good find at last!

the fact that you havent tear them appart and remover parts is a good sign :O


Edited by JamesMcProgger - 12/16/10 at 4:42pm
post #1197 of 4545

James, Olimoronio, I followed your suggestions and ordered the HQ-1600 today. I was in the market for good headphones under $50, and these are on sale right now. Hopefully they would live up to my expectations after reading your posts. If not, they will just end up in the FS forum. wink_face.gif

 

I will post my impressions as soon as I can.


Edited by os2k - 12/16/10 at 1:38pm
post #1198 of 4545

Nice review of the ht-21. I looks like they will compete well with jvc's ha-m750 for well designed budget portables.

post #1199 of 4545

Okay, I am tempted by the HQ-1600 a bit. Any chance my Beyer DT250 pads will fit on them( 4" x 3" outside diameter)? Those pads make my Numark too dark and either I'll sell them to put towards the HQ-1600 or maybe they just might work with them.

post #1200 of 4545

I tried to resist the urge to buy more headphones, but I couldn't do it. I returned my SRH-840 since I couldn't deal with the pain of them on my head.

I ordered the Denon AH-D1100 since they've dropped down to a somewhat decent price. They're no longer $199!

 

I'm a bit worried they're be too much of a bass monster, but maybe as long as it's somewhat controlled, i'll be OK. I'm hoping the mids will be better than the DT-990 or M50's mids.

I found the mids on my amped D2000 to be just fine for me, so I'm only the mids are not too much worse. I couldn't tolerate the mids of the 250 ohm DT-990.

 

I wanted to buy the AH-A100, but I'd be feeling guilty about buying such an expensive (secondary) headphone for about...a month. They're $500 and I'm not sure how long they'll be for sale.

In this economy it's hard to want to buy a $500 headphone and I'm not exactly rich.

 

My KRK KNS-8400 is perfectly fine for what I want right now, but it's still going to be nice to have an unamped bass heavy headphone around.

 

Strangely, I still find my DJ100 the most fun headphone to listen to. Even more than my k601. Really annoying being tied down to an amp for something I want to be more portable. Oh well.

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