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Originally Posted by DisCHORDDubstep View Post

Hey, now you have the monster competitor to beats 2013 studios... Can you add 2013 beats studios? I'm just interested in a battle of consumer cans because my friends aren't willing to look at sennheiser etc. I want them to get the best they are willing to buy. I tried 2013 studios, and I can say: the entire driver was retuned. More open and revealing than original studios... Of course, I'm not going to review it. Didn't spend enough time with them, although it was decent. Surprised me.

 

Agreed. The 1 star reviews of the new studios seem like people ignorant to sound that just kind of jump on the beats hate train... be nice to see what a well respected review thinks of them.

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Originally Posted by Cotnijoe View Post

Agreed. The 1 star reviews of the new studios seem like people ignorant to sound that just kind of jump on the beats hate train... be nice to see what a well respected review thinks of them.
hmm... He compared to ath-m50x's. From response graphs, both have similar amounts of bass. Has there been a single helpful review from a well known reviewer that compared to consumer and non consumer headphones in the price range of 300$?... Yeah, it would be great if the op reviewed it.
Edited by DisCHORDDubstep - 5/14/14 at 8:30am
post #4338 of 4412
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Originally Posted by DisCHORDDubstep View Post

Hey, now you have the monster competitor to beats 2013 studios... Can you add 2013 beats studios? I'm just interested in a battle of consumer cans because my friends aren't willing to look at sennheiser etc. I want them to get the best they are willing to buy. I tried 2013 studios, and I can say: the entire driver was retuned. More open and revealing than original studios... Of course, I'm not going to review it. Didn't spend enough time with them, although it was decent. Surprised me.

 

I'd definitely be curious to try these. Unfortunately the DNA Pro being pretty good doesn't mean all is well in the world of consumer headphones - there's still a lot of crap out there. Even the regular (non-Pro) DNA is consistently disappointing with the muddy midrange and loose bass.  

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To bad I dont use on-ear headphones.

But this is truly a very detailed and useful review !

The comparison table is just awesome !

 

Thank you so much for sharing !

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Hi joker

 

Got the hd25-II's for the times I don't want to wear iem's at work.  Was just wondering on what mp3 player you would recommend to get the best out of them.  I have got the 7th gen ipod classic but really don't like it with the senn's.  I find that it makes the treble a bit tizzy if anything and gives me a headache after awhile.  I tried it with my sansa clip plus today but whilst the sound was much better (or more to my preference I should say) it always felt that the clip was running out of steam.  Was thinking of possibly the fiio x3 or 5?  If it would pair well with a b&w p5 as well that would be a bonus as well.

 

Cheers

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Originally Posted by davidcotton View Post

Hi joker

Got the hd25-II's for the times I don't want to wear iem's at work.  Was just wondering on what mp3 player you would recommend to get the best out of them.  I have got the 7th gen ipod classic but really don't like it with the senn's.  I find that it makes the treble a bit tizzy if anything and gives me a headache after awhile.  I tried it with my sansa clip plus today but whilst the sound was much better (or more to my preference I should say) it always felt that the clip was running out of steam.  Was thinking of possibly the fiio x3 or 5?  If it would pair well with a b&w p5 as well that would be a bonus as well.

Cheers
oh! X5 has a totl wolfson dac... Don't know how it will pair, but it has a built in amp more powerful than the e11... If that helps at all.
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Originally Posted by davidcotton View Post
 

Hi joker

 

Got the hd25-II's for the times I don't want to wear iem's at work.  Was just wondering on what mp3 player you would recommend to get the best out of them.  I have got the 7th gen ipod classic but really don't like it with the senn's.  I find that it makes the treble a bit tizzy if anything and gives me a headache after awhile.  I tried it with my sansa clip plus today but whilst the sound was much better (or more to my preference I should say) it always felt that the clip was running out of steam.  Was thinking of possibly the fiio x3 or 5?  If it would pair well with a b&w p5 as well that would be a bonus as well.

 

Cheers

 

Unfortunately I don't have any hands-on experience with the X3. I've only tried the X5 briefly - it sounded very good but I think it might be overkill for the HD25, same as my HM-901. If the X3 is anything like the X5 in sound it should be more than sufficient. 

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ljokerl, you really found the upper mids and treble that boosted on the DNA Pro?

Its build quality issue sucks to know, broken headbands are pretty common in the busted On-ear DNAs that sell on fleaBay. Impossible to fix. I was thinking of collecting a Pro for kicks, but maybe I should hold off on it.
The On-ear entices me with its customization options on the Monster website, the artwork is awesome, but I don't want to pay double of what it goes for online new and uncustomized. It's not that good.
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ljokerl, you really found the upper mids and treble that boosted on the DNA Pro?

Its build quality issue sucks to know, broken headbands are pretty common in the busted On-ear DNAs that sell on fleaBay. Impossible to fix. I was thinking of collecting a Pro for kicks, but maybe I should hold off on it.
The On-ear entices me with its customization options on the Monster website, the artwork is awesome, but I don't want to pay double of what it goes for online new and uncustomized. It's not that good.

 

Maybe not THAT boosted, but more so than any other non-IEM headphone I currently have here.

 

I agree that some of the DNA variants looks great. I wonder if the DNA Pro will have more color options in the future. Somehow I doubt it - I don't think the brighter-sounding full-size set is going to be Monster's bread and butter.

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Anyone have any recommendations for me? I need to order a pair of headphones TONIGHT because my IEM's broke and I don't know whether the replacement RE-400's will arrive from China in time before I go on holiday on the 29th. I'll be using them for travelling and out and about, but also at home when I fancy a change from my K550's. My rough criteria is:

Compact

Portable

Light

Firm enough on the head to walk around with

Comfortable

Rugged

Stylish in an understated way

Neutral with a slight emphasis on warmth

Max £200 but ideally £150-180

Over or On-ear

Short-medium cable length (no 10 feeters)

 

Models I'm looking at are:

 

Philips Fidelio L2

Pros: sound, comfort, quality, looks

Cons: size, weight

 

Philips Fidelio M1

Pros: price, looks and compactness

Cons: sound

 

Sennheiser HD-251-II

Pros: sound, ruggedness, compactness and price

Cons: looks, long cable

 

Sennheiser Amperior/Aluminium

Pros: sound, ruggedness, compactness and looks

Cons: price, availability

 

Sennheiser Momentum On-ear

Pros: looks, price, comfort

Cons: sound

 

Sony MDR-1R

Pros: comfort and price

Cons: sound, looks

 

V-Moda V-80/M-80/XS

Pros: comfort, sound and compactness

Cons: price, looks, XS would be perfect but not available in the UK

 

 

Any other ideas or recommendations I should be considering?

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Anyone have any recommendations for me? I need to order a pair of headphones TONIGHT because my IEM's broke and I don't know whether the replacement RE-400's will arrive from China in time before I go on holiday on the 29th. I'll be using them for travelling and out and about, but also at home when I fancy a change from my K550's. My rough criteria is:

Compact

Portable

Light

Firm enough on the head to walk around with

Comfortable

Rugged

Stylish in an understated way

Neutral with a slight emphasis on warmth

Max £200 but ideally £150-180

Over or On-ear

Short-medium cable length (no 10 feeters)

 

Any other ideas or recommendations I should be considering?

 

I would forget the Fidelio L2 as it doesnt isolate well as it's semi open back. 

 

For Vmoda M80, (i dont know about XS) i wouldnt put comfort as a pro.

 

And for Sony MDR 1R, i definitely dont see sound as a con. Theyre a good set of headphones if you're looking for a more neutral portable headphone.

 

I've never tried the aluminums, but the amperior are great sounding and can be found for a pretty low price currently. Comfort isnt on the top of the list for me though

 

I would prolly skip the on ear momentum as i feel liek there are better options out there...

 

hope this gives you some sort of direction

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Originally Posted by Cotnijoe View Post
 

 

I would forget the Fidelio L2 as it doesnt isolate well as it's semi open back. 

 

For Vmoda M80, (i dont know about XS) i wouldnt put comfort as a pro.

 

And for Sony MDR 1R, i definitely dont see sound as a con. Theyre a good set of headphones if you're looking for a more neutral portable headphone.

 

I've never tried the aluminums, but the amperior are great sounding and can be found for a pretty low price currently. Comfort isnt on the top of the list for me though

 

I would prolly skip the on ear momentum as i feel liek there are better options out there...

 

hope this gives you some sort of direction


Thanks, man, it does indeed help. :)

 

I've heard the M-80's are about as comfortable for an on-ear design you can get, alongside the KEF M500's and a few others. When compared to a full-sized circumaural headphone, sure they're not as comfortable, but I won't be wearing the headphones when out and about for much more than two hours at a time, so comfort is not hugely high on my list of requirements.

 

It's not that the MDR-1R's are bad sounding at all, it's just that many have said they don't compare to some of their competitors, even the ones I've listed as potentials which are for the most part portable and smaller. However, I'm going by an accumulative, generalized look at the opinions of others, so it's not based on personal experience or specifics.

 

The Amperior are £260 on Amazon at the moment. That's the RRP and I can't afford them. The Aluminium's are £200 but are a little harder to find. They're just the HD25's with aluminium cups and different ear cushions, I think, and maybe a different cable, I'm not sure.

 

The general consensus is the that the Momentum On-ears aren't great sonically and there are indeed better sounding alternatives, but they're still a contender for their ruggedness, size, looks and those cushy ear covers.

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Thanks, man, it does indeed help. :)

 

I've heard the M-80's are about as comfortable for an on-ear design you can get, alongside the KEF M500's and a few others. When compared to a full-sized circumaural headphone, sure they're not as comfortable, but I won't be wearing the headphones when out and about for much more than two hours at a time, so comfort is not hugely high on my list of requirements.

 

It's not that the MDR-1R's are bad sounding at all, it's just that many have said they don't compare to some of their competitors, even the ones I've listed as potentials which are for the most part portable and smaller. However, I'm going by an accumulative, generalized look at the opinions of others, so it's not based on personal experience or specifics.

 

The Amperior are £260 on Amazon at the moment. That's the RRP and I can't afford them. The Aluminium's are £200 but are a little harder to find. They're just the HD25's with aluminium cups and different ear cushions, I think, and maybe a different cable, I'm not sure.

 

The general consensus is the that the Momentum On-ears aren't great sonically and there are indeed better sounding alternatives, but they're still a contender for their ruggedness, size, looks and those cushy ear covers.

 

For me the M-80's comfort is just average for a headphone of that type. Even the HD25 is better because the cups have more freedom of movement. HD25s aren't the best-sounding thing out there but it sounds like what you're after overall - can't really get much more rugged or secure on the head than that.

 

I thought the on-ear momentum sounded OK but not great - not as good as the full-size one, anyway. 

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Originally Posted by ljokerl View Post
 

 

For me the M-80's comfort is just average for a headphone of that type. Even the HD25 is better because the cups have more freedom of movement. HD25s aren't the best-sounding thing out there but it sounds like what you're after overall - can't really get much more rugged or secure on the head than that.

 

I thought the on-ear momentum sounded OK but not great - not as good as the full-size one, anyway. 


I'm looking at the Aluminium version for €185 from Thomann which is only a little more expensive than the standard version. Problem is that their shipping is inconsistent and the headphones may not arrive in time. All the UK sellers are £200 which is around €245, a rather large difference.

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