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Originally Posted by dimmockg View Post

i'm still on the hunt for some on ear phones, tried the akg k450's which were "nice"

 

I currently have the sennheiser hd25 i 11 (pro edition) & 70ohm

 

while there are a lot of things to like about the sennheisers, i still am not 100% satisfied with the sound produced

 

I've tried them amped (fiio e11) and un-amped and through the same source - iphone 4, i've even re-ripped some of my music into loss-less to get a better (than 320kbps) quality.

 

Bass on the senn's are what I could describe as superb, mid's very very good, just seem a little recessed (imo), treble on the odd occasion could best be described as a little harsh.

 

I listen to mainly edm, from the last 16 years or so, which is my preferred music taste

 

Ideally i'd like something very close to the senn's with the same base, slight improvement on the mids and certainly a not so harsh treble - the treble varies per recording, hence re-ripping some of my music to try and help

 

what else could there be to try and get the best possible set of phones? I'd want supra-aural as well

 

I have listened to v-moda m80's - which were fairly decent, but open to more suggestions

 

thanks


I have never heard the HD25, but from what I've heard, it is somewhat similar in signature to the MDR-V6, and I've never considered the V6 to have harsh treble or recessed mids, really. It might be an option. I believe the HD25 is more resolving and detailed, but that may not necessarily be a problem. My girlfriend has Creative Aurvana Live!s, and they are a fair bit nicer than the V6s, those might work for you, too. The CAL!s have a bit more bass than the Sonys, but are very detailed and pleasant to listen to. That said, I have nowhere near Joker's level of experience or knowledge, so I'd take his advice well before mine! Just my two-cents.

post #3287 of 4402

many thanks for the input, anything is helpful

 

i have also downloaded a couple of app's for the iphone - equ and bbe so may play around with those as well

 

The treble isn't harsh on everything, just seems a little OTT on some tracks/albums and not others

 

I'll also spend more time with the senn's to try and find the sweet spot, but I have a sneaky feeling i wont be keeping them - which is a shame

post #3288 of 4402
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Originally Posted by dimmockg View Post

many thanks for the input, anything is helpful

 

i have also downloaded a couple of app's for the iphone - equ and bbe so may play around with those as well

 

The treble isn't harsh on everything, just seems a little OTT on some tracks/albums and not others

 

I'll also spend more time with the senn's to try and find the sweet spot, but I have a sneaky feeling i wont be keeping them - which is a shame


I have ripped a lot of my music using iTunes for PC (I've heard better things about the Mac version), which I have found to be quite disappointing, now that I know what I'm listening for. In particular, anything I ripped over maybe 5 years ago sounds pretty boring in iTunes, I  think their algorithms have improved a lot.

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Incidentally I haven't ruled out changing my source if needs be. As much as I like the iPhone and the versatility it offers I certainly wouldn't need to be tied to apple/iTunes if a new player would suffice - plus I can never say no to a new gadget/toy to play with smily_headphones1.gif

Perhaps a new dap would be a possibility?
post #3290 of 4402
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I have ripped a lot of my music using iTunes for PC (I've heard better things about the Mac version), which I have found to be quite disappointing, now that I know what I'm listening for. In particular, anything I ripped over maybe 5 years ago sounds pretty boring in iTunes, I  think their algorithms have improved a lot.

 

I only recently got iTunes for my Windows 7 PC, and have started ripping via iTunes using the AAC encoder, in custom mode at 320 kbps VBR (prior to that, I was using Grip for linux). Anyway, the m4a files sound excellent on my Samsung Galaxy S2 via custom equalizer settings in the PowerAmp application (my headphones at the moment are KSC75's with the headband mod - soon also to have Senn PX100II's).

 

You mention that you think the iTunes algorithms have improved a lot. Is that an endorsement? Or do you recommend using some other program? One downside of the m4a files is that not all players recognize them. I'm very happy with the sound coming out of my SGS2, but it might be handy to have a dedicated player. I think that the Sansa Zip Clip handles m4a files, so this is probably not a huge deal.

 

Anyway, I would appreciate your impressions. Thanks!

post #3291 of 4402
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Originally Posted by WAYNENUMM View Post

 

I only recently got iTunes for my Windows 7 PC, and have started ripping via iTunes using the AAC encoder, in custom mode at 320 kbps VBR (prior to that, I was using Grip for linux). Anyway, the m4a files sound excellent on my Samsung Galaxy S2 via custom equalizer settings in the PowerAmp application (my headphones at the moment are KSC75's with the headband mod - soon also to have Senn PX100II's).

 

You mention that you think the iTunes algorithms have improved a lot. Is that an endorsement? Or do you recommend using some other program? One downside of the m4a files is that not all players recognize them. I'm very happy with the sound coming out of my SGS2, but it might be handy to have a dedicated player. I think that the Sansa Zip Clip handles m4a files, so this is probably not a huge deal.

 

Anyway, I would appreciate your impressions. Thanks!


I really have no idea. I mean, for home use, I don't much care for iTunes. I just recently noticed that when going through my ripped music, the older ones sound crappier than my newer ones, even at the exact same bitrate. Granted, they are not the same songs, and I have not tried re-ripping them yet. I just think that the first few versions of iTunes used poorer compression algorithms than do the newer ones. I have 0 evidence and really could easily be wrong. As far as others that may work better? No clue. I'm sure this has been discussed extensively elsewhere. I'm generally impressed with foobar, but have not used it to rip. Anyway, my advice would be to search for it.

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Originally Posted by dimmockg View Post

i'm still on the hunt for some on ear phones, tried the akg k450's which were "nice"

 

I currently have the sennheiser hd25 i 11 (pro edition) & 70ohm

 

while there are a lot of things to like about the sennheisers, i still am not 100% satisfied with the sound produced

 

I've tried them amped (fiio e11) and un-amped and through the same source - iphone 4, i've even re-ripped some of my music into loss-less to get a better (than 320kbps) quality.

 

Bass on the senn's are what I could describe as superb, mid's very very good, just seem a little recessed (imo), treble on the odd occasion could best be described as a little harsh.

 

I listen to mainly edm, from the last 16 years or so, which is my preferred music taste

 

Ideally i'd like something very close to the senn's with the same base, slight improvement on the mids and certainly a not so harsh treble - the treble varies per recording, hence re-ripping some of my music to try and help

 

what else could there be to try and get the best possible set of phones? I'd want supra-aural as well

 

I have listened to v-moda m80's - which were fairly decent, but open to more suggestions

 

thanks

 

The M-80 is probably the closest you'll get without sacrificing bass response or on-ear form factor. More forward mids and smoother treble compared to the HD25. I still enjoy mine greatly. There are other ones that do what you want to a lesser extent - the DT1350, for example, or the Fischer Oldskool 33 1/3. Both of these have a bit less bass than the HD25/M-80.

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Originally Posted by scootsit View Post


I really have no idea. I mean, for home use, I don't much care for iTunes. I just recently noticed that when going through my ripped music, the older ones sound crappier than my newer ones, even at the exact same bitrate. Granted, they are not the same songs, and I have not tried re-ripping them yet. I just think that the first few versions of iTunes used poorer compression algorithms than do the newer ones. I have 0 evidence and really could easily be wrong.

 

This is pretty much spot on and not exclusive to itunes.

post #3294 of 4402

Back to headphones for a second, but until I find a pair of headphones that I can listen to as long as the Ultrasone 15 g's I am sticking with them.  I have had to bend them a little to get them perfectly comfy for my head, but other than that found them to be pretty hassle free as well.  I can just listen and listen to them.  They don't have the deepest bass, but the bass is quality and nice a punchy.  I feel like hugging them I love them so much.

post #3295 of 4402

Update....

 

having had a good lenghty listen (2 hours approx) as opposed to a quick 20mins session, I feel the sennheiser's do a very very good job!!

 

I've listened to some freshly ripped losless CD's and using the fiio e11, H gain and zero bass boost I have to say I am somewhat impressed with the sound prodcued and some of my original thoughts/fears are receeding.

 

Bass - very very controlled and decent impact

 

Mids - seemed better during the longer listening - could this be getting used to the sound or losless tracks?

 

Treble - seemed clearer and not so in your (my) face - again, felt an improvement here.

 

Leads me on to another "concern"

 

I use iphone 4 as source, but it seems lossless perform better, I cannot fit all my library on the iphone 4 in this format and (ideally) would not "have" to change source, but is there a better option? The iphone 4 (not s) is limited to 32g, I reckon 50g would be ideal

 

cheers

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Anyone know if these ear pads will fit the HTF600 and if not change the sound? is worth half of what it costs to Beyer ... http://www.amazon.com/Velour-Earcushions-Technica-MDR7506-Headphones/dp/B0081SO0RM/ref=sr_1_8?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1342664998&sr=1-8&keywords=MDR-7506+and+MDR-V6+ear+pads
post #3297 of 4402
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Originally Posted by ljokerl View Post

 

Your 3 favorite IEMs sound nothing alike redface.gif. The CAL! will be closest to the XE200Pro, followed by the CC51. IIRC it's a little warmer than both and of course capable of moving air like a headphone for more impact. $75 sounds like a good price, especially if that's at the top of your budget.

 

 

The V-Moda M-80 is probably your best bet - it definitely reminds me of a slightly more balanced EPH-100 and is very smooth and non-fatiguing without sacrificing detail.

Hi IjokerI, we - ok me - sometimes disposed to forget that all these beauties are because of MUSIC...when I want to listen music here is mine cca 20 years old Kuzma Stabi/Stogi/Ortofon/Luxman/Quad ESL system with DIY cables. On train, bus S9,  Clip+, dozen of IEMs. Am I need CAL! to switch it to my PC?  No! Bought a very unique can recommended by yourself Philips SHP5401 - used 10 bucks (!)  plus Creative SB Play - $15 - from Slovakia.  Really enjoyable sound - very different from all my IEMs, but I really like them! And I have $50 for LPs....beerchug.gif


Edited by garcsa - 7/20/12 at 2:46pm
post #3298 of 4402

Mike, any thought of seeing if C.Crane will send you a pair of their wooden portables?

http://www.ccrane.com/radios/radio-accessories/senta-40-wooden-headphones.aspx#.UAnQ6aBkNAo

post #3299 of 4402
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Originally Posted by garcsa View Post

Hi IjokerI, we - ok me - sometimes disposed to forget that all these beauties are because of MUSIC...when I want to listen music here is mine cca 20 years old Kuzma Stabi/Stogi/Ortofon/Luxman/Quad ESL system with DIY cables. On train, bus S9,  Clip+, dozen of IEMs. Am I need CAL! to switch it to my PC?  No! Bought a very unique can recommended by yourself Philips SHP5401 - used 10 bucks (!)  plus Creative SB Play - $15 - from Slovakia.  Really enjoyable sound - very different from all my IEMs, but I really like them! And I have $50 for LPs....beerchug.gif

 

Good deal for the 5400/5401. I've not heard many things like it either but I did enjoy them for a while. 

 

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Originally Posted by jant71 View Post

Mike, any thought of seeing if C.Crane will send you a pair of their wooden portables?

http://www.ccrane.com/radios/radio-accessories/senta-40-wooden-headphones.aspx#.UAnQ6aBkNAo

 

Not really dying to add to the queue at this point. There's a lot of interesting headphones popping up, low end and high. Just not enough time to check them out.

 

By the way, those look like something from esmooth

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I am looking for a headphone in the range of $ 50-60. Currently i have a cyclone pr1 pro iem which i had bought reading your review.

 

I want good detail and soundstage but i like bass too which is controlled and doesn't extend into the mids.

 

I have read about the superlux hd 668b and takstar 2050 but can't decide which one from these. What are the differences between these 2.

 

There are also other superluxs and takstar models too but i dont know much about them. I also read somewhere that Jaycar Pro audio are also good for the price but can't find a review anywhere.

 

I mostly listen to classic rock and house music. I won't be using an amplifier to drive these but just my cowon d2. 

 

I have heard the Sennheiser hd 439 and they weren't bad. So i am confused which one to go for. Superlux, takstar or jaycar. Or sennheiser which i can buy locally. Are there any other headphones that i chould be considering?

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