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Originally Posted by UteroiD View Post
I'm using my EF-2 with HD600's and i'm very happy with it. I still have the stock tubes, and only have been listening for about 3 weeks... but it drives them very well... i think EF2s tube sound compliments well 600s brightness.
What do you notice different about the EF2 vs an ipod with your HD600s?

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post #992 of 1263
I'm now using my EF2 with my own home made headphones, it works rather well with my homemade drivers!!

34ohms..
post #993 of 1263
a very late great job H.A.-- i am very surprised about this one. do u still have this little guy in your line up? even more interesting is how its dac is comparable to the predator, thou i dont know how impressive that is, im curious do you know what dac is in the predator, maybe its a pcm 2702? i would really like to know what chip it uses, i may have to take it apart lol.

another good read, cheers
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Originally Posted by techenvy View Post
a very late great job H.A.-- i am very surprised about this one. do u still have this little guy in your line up? even more interesting is how its dac is comparable to the predator, thou i dont know how impressive that is, im curious do you know what dac is in the predator, maybe its a pcm 2702? i would really like to know what chip it uses, i may have to take it apart lol.

another good read, cheers
In the RSA amps the identification of the chips is removed and they are painted with red nail polish, so forget about digging into the Predator.

I would say the PCM2702E DACs in some of my amps like EF2, 3MOVE and XM5 have similar detail and soundstage to each other and to the Predator; so it doesn't matter what chip the Predator uses, being that it is similar. The DAC is an upgrade over my Macbook Pro soundcard, and very slightly below my iMod with a portable line out dock.

I find the DACs that use a Wolfson 8740 chip like the D4, D10 and Pico have a higher level of detail and soundstage than the PCM2702E Japan. These are more comparable to the iMod with an expensive Vcap dock, which is just a below my Apogee mini-DAC but quite good.

The $99 uDAC RCA out into the EF2 amp is a definite upgrade over the built-in DAC of the EF2 with better detail and soundstage, but is a little warmer and more forward sounding than the Wolfson DACs which are a little more neutral and spacious.
post #995 of 1263
After spending 7 months with the EF2, I finally gave up on it.

This is what I heard and my opinion, and I hope this can be respected. I found that the EF2 sound was indistinguishable from my ipod and my computer with Sennheiser HD580 and Ultrasone HFI580. Additionally, my ipod and computer onboard sound provide more than adequate listening volumes. Even changing several different tube types (including mullard CV4010) I noticed no difference. I even added a different DAC for it (DAC Extasy with Wolfsen 8501) with no real change. Maybe this is not the case with other types of headphones, I don't know. But, after this long of listening and testing, It was clear to me that I no longer needed this unit.
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Problems with my ef2

Alright. So I hardly post anything on any forum (this one including). It seems I have a problem with my new ef2a though. I received my unit on Monday last week and I initially liked the sound. I couldn't wait to burn it in. After burning it in for who knows how long I really started liking the sound coming out of my ef2. Very warm rich sound which was very pleasing to my ears(I'm very noobish). Here's the problem. I left out of town for two days, now I'm back and I can't stand the sound coming out of the ef2. It's making a lot more staticy background pops and it sounds almost as if its is only making my music only louder now.....no more clean warm sound = ( . I initially thought maybe It's because It needs to warm up. I listened to music for about hour and a half, still no improvement.

I'm using the build-in usb dac of the ef2 through foobar listening to various mp3's, wavs, and flacs. My headphone is an unmodded denon ah-2000. I want to get down to the bottom of this. Here's a recap of my problems with the ef2:

- Not as warm and detailed in sound.
- More noise in the background with more noticeable static hiccups.

I have thought maybe...

- It's the tubes since I was touching them a lot and I don't know much about tubes ( I'm using the stock tubes, getting some new ones soon though).

-a bad power supply?
- maybe I just need to burn it in more?

I have the volume turned all the way up on my computer, and the problem definitely is not a loudness problem. Any help will be very greatly appreciated. Hopefully my ears are just not working correctly and I wake up tomorrow with the same musical bliss that I had before .....
post #997 of 1263
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Originally Posted by Mellorelishman View Post
Alright. So I hardly post anything on any forum (this one including). It seems I have a problem with my new ef2a though. I received my unit on Monday last week and I initially liked the sound. I couldn't wait to burn it in. After burning it in for who knows how long I really started liking the sound coming out of my ef2. Very warm rich sound which was very pleasing to my ears(I'm very noobish). Here's the problem. I left out of town for two days, now I'm back and I can't stand the sound coming out of the ef2. It's making a lot more staticy background pops and it sounds almost as if its is only making my music only louder now.....no more clean warm sound = ( . I initially thought maybe It's because It needs to warm up. I listened to music for about hour and a half, still no improvement.

I'm using the build-in usb dac of the ef2 through foobar listening to various mp3's, wavs, and flacs. My headphone is an unmodded denon ah-2000. I want to get down to the bottom of this. Here's a recap of my problems with the ef2:

- Not as warm and detailed in sound.
- More noise in the background with more noticeable static hiccups.

I have thought maybe...

- It's the tubes since I was touching them a lot and I don't know much about tubes ( I'm using the stock tubes, getting some new ones soon though).

-a bad power supply?
- maybe I just need to burn it in more?

I have the volume turned all the way up on my computer, and the problem definitely is not a loudness problem. Any help will be very greatly appreciated. Hopefully my ears are just not working correctly and I wake up tomorrow with the same musical bliss that I had before .....
I would maybe try unplugging everything, let the amp cool down, shut off the PC and turn it back on, and plug everything in, and warm up the amp again, and see what happens. If the sound is still clearly a problem, then maybe something in the amp broke between now and the last time you listened.
post #998 of 1263
Mellorelishman while you are doing what Larry (HeadphoenAddict) suggested remove the tubes and re-seat them and make sure all the cables are fully inserted. Good luck.
post #999 of 1263
Thanks for the responses! You people are truly dedicated to your hobbies here.... Any who, I had already tried what mrarroyo and HPA suggested before my post to no avail.... However, I let the amp burn in over night and now it sounds fine. The pops are pretty much non existent and the sound is much better. It's really amazing how this amp responds to burning in. I don't understand how some people do not believe in burn in.

I dunno what inspired my inpatients as I usually try a lot of things before posting. If i would have been patient this post would not have happened. My ef2 sounds wonderful again though . I really appreciate the suggestions though. As you can see I have been a part of this forum for a while, however, I really tend to read a lot of posts on forums without posting much myself. I do visit this forum often though.
post #1000 of 1263
Mine is making a nasty 60Hz hum that comes and goes.. Im shipping the power supply back tomorrow as it's original is dead and I believe my home made PSU is starting to fail.
post #1001 of 1263
my ef2a just arrived, its working well with my d5000. Everything seems clearer and punchier. Rock sounds a lot better
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Originally Posted by ChiComm4 View Post

I'm getting some irritating computer noise from my iMac when not using the USB input with the volume at 12:00 (my favored level) or greater; the noise coincides with moving browser windows around, minimizing/maximizing windows,

I've tried reducing and muting the volume of the mac; I've also tried going to mac audio settings and switching audio output from USB to internal speakers. Ironically, the noise does not occur if I am switched to the USB input. It seems the only solution to avoiding the electronic noise while using the CD input is to remove the usb cable or reduce the EF2 volume to below 12:00.

Is the DAC to blame? I'm considering a uDAC if it might help.

*Note: I had this same problem with a Mac Mini and an old HP desktop.


 

I had this issue a few years back with a computer and the problem was solved by going into the BIOS and upping the RAM voltage to the next highest step. It was something like bumping it from 2.6 to 2.8 volts.... never had the problem again. I haven't messed with an Apple computer lately though so I can't remember if you can get in and adjust those types of things. If you have more than one stick of RAM you could try taking one at a time out and seeing if problem clears up. If so, then replace that stick. Even just re-seating the ram and the cards might help.

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Just got mine the other day. Nasty hum coming out of it, no matter where I plug it in, plug orientation. Varies in intensity with the volume knob when powered on. Does not need to be near other equipment, and doesn't even need the USB cable plugged in. Removed and re-inserted the tubes. Plugged it into a Monster power conditioner. Used different headphones. All to no avail. Sent message on eBay about possible return. No answer from them yet.

 

Are they good at replacing it? Or is there anything else I should do?

post #1004 of 1263

How many hours on it?  Maybe you need to just leave it on at zero volume for a little while, like 4 hour stints for a couple days.

post #1005 of 1263
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Originally Posted by pws442 View Post

Just got mine the other day. Nasty hum coming out of it, no matter where I plug it in, plug orientation. Varies in intensity with the volume knob when powered on. Does not need to be near other equipment, and doesn't even need the USB cable plugged in. Removed and re-inserted the tubes. Plugged it into a Monster power conditioner. Used different headphones. All to no avail. Sent message on eBay about possible return. No answer from them yet.

 

Are they good at replacing it? Or is there anything else I should do?


It could be bad tubes.  I would try to replace them and see what happens.

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