REVIEW: Sennheiser HD 800 - Page 11

Ok,forget about the amp,i just have this feeling and i wanted to mention it.Of course it's logical that several posts will be ignored,there is no doubt about it.But I don't know if you understood what my point was.
It's not about the amp and it's not that i want people to reply me every time i ask something.(neither me reply everything and everytime somebody asks something)

Good point, Uncle Erik. Hadn't thought of the fact that we might be able to roughly divide the population of head-fiers into two separate populations -- bass-heads and others -- with expectations that are very different. Clears up a lot of the muddle. Reminds me of Ockham's razor and keeping theories as simple as possible. The cans remain constant, but the users clearly stand on one side or the other, divided not by the innate quality of the cans but by their own tastes. So when we evaluate cans, we're not really evaluating the cans but how we're reflected in them. So it really comes down to my likes vs. your likes. This explains why passions and emotions boil over when people's favorite 'phones are put down. "Attack my cans and you attack me!" Food for thought.

It's sad for me to say... but some of us still need and use this duality view to feel better.

That's why i always say that people should try the audio gear themselves before buying,so they can have their own opinion.
I've never felt though that if somebody says that my cans or my audio gear is crap,he is attacking me.I know what i like and that doesn't change if somebody else doesn't like it.

john53, you're not alone in your concerns. You're right. It really is rude to not acknowledge someone's contribution in a discussion. And it's especially rude when a comment that's addressed to a person is ignored. I can only imagine how many great ideas haven't seen the light of day simply because no one thought to follow up on a comment or respond to a person's suggestion. The only suggestion I can make is to not give up and continue to share your thoughts and ideas.

I'm not defending rude behavior, but when someone like Skylab doesn't respond, it's almost always because he didn't see your message. It's easy to miss them when there are so many. I think you'll see that most Head-fiers like Skylab with thousands of posts are dedicated to the hobby and are passionate about sharing it with others. If they see your message, they'll almost always respond. Time and again, I've seen them patiently respond to questions that they've faced hundreds of times, all in the interest of helping a noob.

I'm nowhere near a thousand. At the rate I'm going, it'll take me 5-10 more years to reach 1K. But the one thing that I'm sure about is that those with posts in the 4-5 digit range are here for the long haul and look out for noobs.

Based on your posts, though, you seem to be very knowledgeable and far from being a newcomer. You make fine distinctions in lows and highs -- not just in decibles -- and you're exploring the impact that different amps have on SQ. This means you have a lot of insights to share, and if you continue to do so, others will definitely be responding.

feifan,thanks for your nice words.I thought it again and maybe I shouldn't have made this post.Those members(like skylab)are really busy and it's absolute logical to miss some posts.
I just wanted to share this opinion though,i felt like doing that.

Skylab,sorry if i was rude,i know that you are very experienced and you make nice reviews,you seem to love this hobby very much.

I want to say that i really like listening to music,and this hobby,too,and i'll be very careful in the future with my thoughts about audio equipement.

It's a simple rule, and we should all follow it. But that may not be possible or practical sometimes. In lieu of firsthand experience, we have forums such as Head-fi where we can get a sense of the quality of different equipment vicariously, through the experience of others. I'm a coward about making decisions. I'll research as much as I can -- and reread everything several times -- before I reach a decision to buy. If I have any doubts, I remain on the fence post.
That shows your maturity -- not so much chronologically as emotionally. Age is no guarantee of maturity -- I think I saw that in a head-fier's signature.

Nah, don't be too polite. Tell it like it is. Don't hold back too much. People here have thick skins!

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^^Have you guys finished, lets get back to ridiculing each other

I just tried to think myself in Skylab's position and i think that he must be very busy with all these people asking questions,that's why i said i shouldn't have posted that.
I think it's good to be polite if you can(ok sometimes maybe not so much)
It's something i feel is missing nowdays(especially here in greece)

Yes, i also notice this slightly little 'too' large soundstage (for my taste), sounds like what vcoheda described by 'diffuse' might be the more precise term, if I understand your description correctly.

I agree with the "basshead" thoughts, having gone through a pair of Denons. I can say I don't think about the bass on the HD-800s, if that makes any sense. It's neither thin, nor thick, nor any particular description for me. It just does stand out because of adding to or subtracting from the music, unless you really do prefer the punch of DX1000s or the like.

I was trying to find a word for the soundstage. Cavernous came to mind, but caverns are enclosed and have echos. The only similar thing I can think of is a stadium. "Stadium-like" sounds a bit silly though.

You've posted another good review and I must say reviewing these things are damn hard, especially to untrained ears like mine, but it reads well, makes a lot of sense and should be helpful to any potential buyers.

Keep up the gr8 work and I agree, don't be too polite, tell it like it is...

Nice rebuttal feifan.

Not to split hairs but the word I used to describe everything except for the very high treble , is wonderful. And as far as the very high treble gos, its as good as anything i have heard in a headphone.

For home theater the HD-800 is as close to having a very nice speaker and amp setup, as I have heard.
And yes I am very picky about audio and video quality. I am a DIY ISF calibrator.

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