or Connect
Head-Fi.org › Forums › Equipment Forums › Headphones (full-size) › opinions on the DT770 '05 600 ohm?
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

opinions on the DT770 '05 600 ohm? - Page 9

post #121 of 149
Cheers Skylab.
post #122 of 149
Quote:
Originally Posted by MacedonianHero View Post
No they are not the Manufacktur and yes I did confirm that the box had 600 ohm version printed on and and I did measure the impedance (620 ohms actually) when I first received them (from an authorized beyer dealer).
Exactly 620 on both, left and right channel?
Sorry, I just had really bad luck (3 times in a row) getting 600Ohm DT770 with matched drivers, used different retailers too.
post #123 of 149
Quote:
Originally Posted by Andrew_WOT View Post
Exactly 620 on both, left and right channel?
It was 600 L and 600 R. I do not hear any L to R imbalances, nor have I run a full Gage R&R on my multimeter .

That sucks about going through 3 pairs though...so much for "German engineering".
post #124 of 149
Got my 4th pair, from B&H this time, measured 615Ohm on both channels, checked inside, both drivers have dampening caps installed, seems like Beyer tightened up their QC. They are nowhere as bright as 250Ohm counterpart, sounded a bit congested and muffled out of the box but already started opening up. Funny, the sticker on the box now says "600Ohm Audiophile version" used to be just 600ohm.
post #125 of 149
O_O... Seems like 4th time is the charm, eh Andrew?

it sucks to see what you've been through with all those retailers failing on you and what not

I would love a short comparison of the DT770/600 to the DT990/600.

*clears throat* *erhhhmmm errhmnmn hmmm m* in the bass areas of course
post #126 of 149
Quote:
Originally Posted by Andrew_WOT View Post
Got my 4th pair, from B&H this time, measured 615Ohm on both channels, checked inside, both drivers have dampening caps installed, seems like Beyer tightened up their QC. They are nowhere as bright as 250Ohm counterpart, sounded a bit congested and muffled out of the box but already started opening up. Funny, the sticker on the box now says "600Ohm Audiophile version" used to be just 600ohm.
Hey...finally. Like they say, 4th time is a charm!

Enjoy.
post #127 of 149
I'm currently in the market for a good set of closed 'phones and I'd like to know what, if any, differences there are between the the retail and manufaktur versions, besides getting it in your favorite color.

Do the manufaktur leather pads make a big difference in SQ? Or if you replace the standard velour with J Money's? I'm inclined towards the leather for durability reasons, but what sounds best? I believe I've read somewhere (don't remember the thread) that even for the same model, the manufaktur 'phones sound better because of better matched drives and better build quality. Is that true at all?

I'd also like to know how durable they are. I tend to (accidentally) be a bit hard on my belongings and I can't really justify spending that much money unless they'll last pretty much forever. I can recable them myself when they eventually (and certainly will) need it, but how will the rest of it hold up?
post #128 of 149
Quote:
Originally Posted by maverickronin View Post
I'm currently in the market for a good set of closed 'phones and I'd like to know what, if any, differences there are between the the retail and manufaktur versions, besides getting it in your favorite color.

Do the manufaktur leather pads make a big difference in SQ? Or if you replace the standard velour with J Money's? I'm inclined towards the leather for durability reasons, but what sounds best? I believe I've read somewhere (don't remember the thread) that even for the same model, the manufaktur 'phones sound better because of better matched drives and better build quality. Is that true at all?

I'd also like to know how durable they are. I tend to (accidentally) be a bit hard on my belongings and I can't really justify spending that much money unless they'll last pretty much forever. I can recable them myself when they eventually (and certainly will) need it, but how will the rest of it hold up?
As far as I know the only difference between retail and manufacture is that with the latter you can choose between different earpads (leather instead of velour) and different ohmage (32 and 600, instead of 250). Also you can choose a leather headband and different color.
The leather earpads will give a slightly sharper sound (more/better detail), with a touch more bass and treble. They can use the extra bass, but not the extra treble.
The velour pads are far more comfortable IMO, the leather are as sticky to the skin as cheap pleather ones. The aviation leather pads do better is this regard.

If you want unbreakable headphones with excellent sound, I recommend the German Maestro GMP 8.300 D. It's 300 ohm.
If you buy DT770 velour pads along with them, the comfort is good as well as the sound. And you spend less money.
post #129 of 149
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tiemen View Post
As far as I know the only difference between retail and manufacture is that with the latter you can choose between different earpads (leather instead of velour) and different ohmage (32 and 600, instead of 250).
Different ohmage has become available in retail version too.
post #130 of 149
They don't have to be quite that "unbreakable". The GMPs look like something you might need if you were trying to master a recording in the middle of a battlefield and need to not only drown out the sound of the mortars, but block their shrapnel as well. Definitely mil-spec, definitely cool, BUT how do they sound in comparison? Being indestructible isn't my only criteria, its not even the top one. I just want to make sure they're not the kind of thing that will break if you drop them, or if they fall of the desk, or be held together by one little piece you never even noticed was there until it broke.

Isolation is also important as well, which is why I'm looking for closed 'phones in the first place. In any case the GMPs are now on my list to find and try out.
post #131 of 149
Quote:
Originally Posted by maverickronin View Post
They don't have to be quite that "unbreakable". The GMPs look like something you might need if you were trying to master a recording in the middle of a battlefield and need to not only drown out the sound of the mortars, but block their shrapnel as well. Definitely mil-spec, definitely cool, BUT how do they sound in comparison? Being indestructible isn't my only criteria, its not even the top one. I just want to make sure they're not the kind of thing that will break if you drop them, or if they fall of the desk, or be held together by one little piece you never even noticed was there until it broke.

Isolation is also important as well, which is why I'm looking for closed 'phones in the first place. In any case the GMPs are now on my list to find and try out.
Yes, the GMP 8.300 D are ugly as sin. They are the succesoor of the MB Quart QP 805 HS.
I have avoided them almost two years, much to my regret now.
I have them on loan, and some of my thoughts are here:
http://www.head-fi.org/forums/f4/ger...ml#post6585955
Don't let specs, price, top of the line etc fool you. That doesn't say anything.
I will make a thread about them soon.
You could also check out the GMP 8.35 Monitor, Beyer DT150 and AKG K271/2. Rock solid and good sounding closed headphones.

BTW: I also can't see how you can break a DT770 2005 edition. They are very solid, and can stand a fall on the floor.
post #132 of 149
Thanks for the info on the GMPs and the Beyers.

I'd also like to say that I don't plan to be hard on my gear. It just happens that way since sometimes I'm a bit clumsy.
post #133 of 149

To all those with the DT770 600ohm what sort of amps are you using to run these bad boys? I'm considering picking up a pair and wondering what you are using, what you think pairs well and how well you think my Little Dot mkII holds up? Know I'm asking a bunch but figured I might as well do as much research as possible on the headphones before I really decide to buy them.

post #134 of 149

I don't have one anymore, but when I did have it I ran it from my X-CanV8P. I thought it sounded good, but there was some slight clipping.

 

I suggest you run these from an OTL tube amp as the DT770's really sound better with warm equipment. Tubes help fill the void in the DT770 mids quite a bit. Even a warmer DAC and or source would help this aspect as well.

 

Currently I drive my 600Ohm DT880 and 600Ohm DT990 from my Audio-GD ROC and WA3+. The WA3+ does a better job at driving them than the ROC, but the ROC is more neutral which I prefer. So yeah....

post #135 of 149
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zombie_X View Post

 

I suggest you run these from an OTL tube amp as the DT770's really sound better with warm equipment. Tubes help fill the void in the DT770 mids quite a bit. Even a warmer DAC and or source would help this aspect as well.

 

 


Definitely agree - they sound best on OTL tube amps, generally speaking.

New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: Headphones (full-size)
Head-Fi.org › Forums › Equipment Forums › Headphones (full-size) › opinions on the DT770 '05 600 ohm?