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post #1396 of 2209
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Originally Posted by ulogin View Post

 

So what JH Audio shows on YouTube about fine-tuning is simply marketing, which also means that custom does not offer anything on top of universal (besides comfort)?

No its not marketing gimmick. There is quiet a bit of science in how driver placement inside ear canal affects the sound characteristics.

here is a link which explains better.
http://rinchoi.blogspot.de/2010/05/how-deep-do-you-insert-you-er4.html
 

post #1397 of 2209
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Originally Posted by MuZo2 View Post

No its not marketing gimmick. There is quiet a bit of science in how driver placement inside ear canal affects the sound characteristics.
here is a link which explains better.
http://rinchoi.blogspot.de/2010/05/how-deep-do-you-insert-you-er4.html

 

True, but what the author is saying is that driver placement (insertion depth), when done badly, can harm SQ. That's why he said that acs tips had negative effects on the intended sound of er4. He never wanted any positive effects from the tips.

Indeed, I just spoke to the author of this piece. He told me that he was not convinced that custom has any advantages on top of universal sq-wise.
post #1398 of 2209
Quote:
Originally Posted by MuZo2 View Post

No its not marketing gimmick. There is quiet a bit of science in how driver placement inside ear canal affects the sound characteristics.
here is a link which explains better.
http://rinchoi.blogspot.de/2010/05/how-deep-do-you-insert-you-er4.html

 

And if you believe in driver placement, would you mind sharing what you did exactly to decide how to place drivers in your own CIEM?
post #1399 of 2209
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Originally Posted by ulogin View Post


He told me that he was not convinced that custom has any advantages on top of universal sq-wise.

 


If with a universal iem combined with a proper tip, you get proper fit seal and insertion where the tip of insert earphones reaches the reference plane (This is a plane, at right angles to the longitudinal axis of the ear canal, located at the point in the ear canal where the earmold or ear shell usually terminates (defined in the standards to be approximately 13mm from the ear drum) at which you can enjoy the reference response that the manufacturer of the earphones intended.
Then I would say there is no advantage of custom for SQ.
post #1400 of 2209
Quote:
Originally Posted by MuZo2 View Post


If with a universal iem combined with a proper tip, you get proper fit seal and insertion where the tip of insert earphones reaches the reference plane (This is a plane, at right angles to the longitudinal axis of the ear canal, located at the point in the ear canal where the earmold or ear shell usually terminates (defined in the standards to be approximately 13mm from the ear drum) at which you can enjoy the reference response that the manufacturer of the earphones intended.
Then I would say there is no advantage of custom for SQ.

Fair enough smily_headphones1.gif
post #1401 of 2209

For the people who have worked with the 33A007, does anyone have its impedance plot?

 

Also, AVX markets their Niobium caps as having low ESR (and consequently, Heir uses AVX exclusively); does that necessarily make a significant audible difference in THD over your run of the mill Tantalum? Isn't low ESR only critical for temperature sensitive applications (of which IEMs aren't really subjected to)?


Edited by tomscy2000 - 7/3/12 at 9:29pm
post #1402 of 2209

Maybe if you'll send me one driver (or ten), I'll plot the impedance for you biggrin.gif

 

 

I was under the impression that tantalums are worst kind of cap for audio. Why not use ceramics instead? They'll also have lower ESR for sure. I have no idea about the quality of niobium caps.

post #1403 of 2209

ceramics are not well-regarded, sonically, either.  film caps are the usual choice for crossovers, unless they would be too big, physically (this may be the worst phrasing for any post i have ever made).  

post #1404 of 2209

True, but smd film caps are rare, expensive and aren't available in very high capacitances. Hence, ceramics are used, which I believe are better than tantalums at least. There's really not much room for better caps in iems.

post #1405 of 2209

How about paper in oil caps?

post #1406 of 2209

I'll be starting to put my iems together soon, these turned up in the UK from mouser today, ordered sunday, Free FEDEX delivery  with all VAT and Duty paid :D

 

They are Knowles BK-26824, bought them because they're fairly cheap, bought 4 because i had to get over £50 for the free delivery (& duty) and it gives me a chance to finish a pair even if i ruin 2.

Bought a full set of dampers to test too

 

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Edited by Greenbeast - 7/6/12 at 3:53am
post #1407 of 2209

Need to find some of the tubing for the drivers, in the UK ideally.

 

It's the last thing i need, got my impression appointment booked for tomorrow.

 

I can find this:

 http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Stay-Dri-Dry-BTE-Hearing-Aid-Tubing-X-2-/180925164884?pt=UK_Health_Beauty_Mobility_Disability_Medical_ET&hash=item2a1ffaed54#ht_500wt_1236

 

 

Or this:

http://www.sensorcom.com/product.asp?P_ID=1071&strPageHistory=related

 

But not sure if either are the same thing others are using.

post #1408 of 2209

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Opened up my ue superfi 5 eb as I constantly find the RHS has lesser bass and suspect its due to seal issue. Turns out the sound tube is indeed broken and has leakage. Hope this picture will help someone in one way or another. Red colour damper in the tube and model of high freq driver is UE HIe 0749. Cap has something like 225 20K and 1105 or 005 on it.
 

Additional info: internal diameter of sound tube is approx 1.5mm


Edited by broww - 7/10/12 at 10:18am
post #1409 of 2209
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Originally Posted by Greenbeast View Post

Need to find some of the tubing for the drivers, in the UK ideally.

 

It's the last thing i need, got my impression appointment booked for tomorrow.

 

I can find this:

 http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Stay-Dri-Dry-BTE-Hearing-Aid-Tubing-X-2-/180925164884?pt=UK_Health_Beauty_Mobility_Disability_Medical_ET&hash=item2a1ffaed54#ht_500wt_1236

 

 

Or this:

http://www.sensorcom.com/product.asp?P_ID=1071&strPageHistory=related

 

But not sure if either are the same thing others are using.

 

I'm using the sensorcom tubing. Seems to work well enough.

post #1410 of 2209
excellent, thanks very much!
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