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post #76 of 115
I've been using my MX760s whenever I just want a quick listen to something - no hassle like an IEM. However, the cable design is getting quite frustrating...both the extended length and the cable itself (silicon-like material doesn't stay put)...thinking of getting a Yuin or something now, just for convenience's sake..
post #77 of 115
I dunno what its is with these massive cable lengths, I've seen it with earphones for mobile phones and other earphones/headphones. They seem to be designed for people 8ft tall.
post #78 of 115
I added the following update after a quick listen to the earbuds I found I had.

http://www.head-fi.org/forums/6288144-post72.html
post #79 of 115
MX 680 Sports
MX 270
MX 271
MX 370
MX 470
MX 471
MX 580
MX 581
MX 60 Street II
MX 65 VC Street II
MXL 60 Street II
MX 95 VC Style II
MX 880
MX 980
etc....


so many new earbuds by sennheiser
post #80 of 115
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by a_tumiwa View Post
*list*

so many new earbuds by sennheiser
I'm as happy as you are! I'm glad someone at Sennheiser is listening.
Interesting that some of the offerings come in pairs like the MX580 and 581, where the latter (and the MX*71 buds) seems to have a smaller housing that's more accommodating to smaller ears. It's somewhat similar to what Sony and Audio-Technica (and perhaps others) do with their lines but Sennheiser seems to take it a step further by using differing designs to differentiate between the members of the pairs.
post #81 of 115
Thought I would keep the Senn bud impressions together instead of starting another thread. I got a pair of the MX471 since they are $19.99 w/free shipping at J&R.





Figured I'd try them and see what the new ones bring. Maybe help me decide if I want to try out the pricier MX880. I think these will tide me over till the 880's price drops.

The cool things about these are no volume control, cord slider, very attractive looks, and shaping for smaller ears. They are very nice for $20 shipped. Build is very solid. Cord slider is a welcome addition. Case is vinyl and fairly sturdy. Very handsome as well. The cord is great; plastic coated instead of rubber and quite solid. Different bronze coloring sets it apart.

The speakers are 15mm across total which will fit in smaller ears. You have a pair of rubber rings to increase the diameter and 2 pair of foams. I use the rings and foams. The shape is different than most earbuds which are either even or place more of the speaker ahead of the stem. These, as in the 2nd pic of the left side bud, place the stem toward the front edge of the speaker. I always find that pushing the rear of most buds in angles the driver towards my ear canal and gives better sound/soundstage. These allow a slight bit of that naturally with their shape. They fit well and have a nice size soundstage more like the 660/760 than previous lower models such as the 460/560.

The sound is still only out of the box but right now good for the price.

"Feel the Beat" an "enhanced bass" give the impress of more bass. At this point no. They are clear and balanced but not thin sounding. The live bass is an improvement in the tone and realism of the bass. Better than my last Senn bud(the MX65-II) and there is some visceral impact in the lowest notes.

Being 16 Ohm, they seem more cohesive/less peaky than the older phones of 32/64Ohm. A fairly even response with no flaws in the presentation worth mentioning. Still need to burn in to be fair, so far the detail and extension are solid but not remarkable. Soundstage is pretty good and the separation is well done. Depth is a bit low but expected from a 4XX series. Overall a clean, cohesive sounding bud with a nice natural sound.

For the $20, I think they fit excellent, look slick, sound a bit better than most of the older models outside of the 660/760, are well built, and well accessorized.

I say they will hold me over and when the MX880 drops $20, I will buy them w/o reservation.
post #82 of 115
nice to know that it is already released.
would love to hear more of your impression after full burn in
post #83 of 115
Thread Starter 
Very nice impressions jant! I've ordered a pair of MX580s last week and should get to listen to them this Friday. Like you, I wanted a taste of the new Senn buds before buying the MX880. It'll be interesting to see if the larger housings (and presumably, larger drivers) of the MX**0s make a difference.

Anyway, I look forward to further impressions on the MX471. I really do like the new designs.
post #84 of 115
The newer line sounds promising. I am hoping to get the Expression Line for review once they hit Asia. Hopefully it won't take as much time as the IE series (half a year!) to reach here, fingers cross.
post #85 of 115
Some nice long snowstorm here today. I'm doing multiple lighter passes. Four times out shoveling and not once did the 471 come out. The smaller size nestles a bit lower and stays put for me. Did yank the cord out my player once when I had it in an outer pocket. I have no worries about the cable though. For those who know it, the cable is very similar to the Mee M11 cable but a slight bit sturdier.

kjk1281, I would say the MX471 is a bit better sounding phone than the CX250 is. Again the newer Senn sound is there. The 471 have gotten more bass in as the driver is loosening up. Also better depth and detail has come through. More bass than the PX200-II but less than the CX250. Better quality than the CX250 but less quality than the PX200-II.

"LiveBass" is just marketing speak to have something to say about the earbud line. The new models I have heard so far all seem to have this better bass performance. So the CX250 and PX200-II have should the "LiveBass" system too. "Enhanced Bass" is really on the mark though. Really nice, headphone-like bass. The older Senn buds did not convey the impact on the lower notes near as well. These are quick and a set of fast bass notes will be rendered quickly, separately, and all the notes will be felt. The older phones couldn't do this unamped(some not at all), either smearing or just pitter pattering the notes into light unconvincing taps. Don't remember the PK2 being able to do this very well either.

I do want to say that these are sounding very much like the G2A but a bit smaller sounding. Very balanced, quick tight, punchy bass, and good clarity. The bass part of the spectrum stands out as a bit as their best aspect quality-wise.

The MX880 should be a no-brainer. If not for the volume control, I would say they would be the next big thing in earbuds. I will get them to replace my PX200-II's. Nothing wrong with the PX200-II's at all! I have a feeling the 880's will be even more portable and sound just as good if not better.

So far so good! I'm sure the MX580 will be real good. Definitely throw them in there as options to think about with the PK2/3.

The Expression line will be nice to hear about when they come out. Still not sure if they are overpriced. Probably more earbud than I need/will use. The MX880 should do the trick for me.
post #86 of 115
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by jant71 View Post
For those who know it, the cable is very similar to the Mee M11 cable but a slight bit sturdier.
I thought the cables looked familiar. It'd be great if the cables were used across the line since, as far as I know, it's only utilized on the MX/CX**1s.

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Originally Posted by jant71 View Post
kjk1281, I would say the MX471 is a bit better sounding phone than the CX250 is. Again the newer Senn sound is there. The 471 have gotten more bass in as the driver is loosening up. Also better depth and detail has come through. More bass than the PX200-II but less than the CX250. Better quality than the CX250 but less quality than the PX200-II.
@ the bolded portion! I've always preferred Sennheiser's earbuds to their canalphones, so this is great news indeed. Also, that's quite surprising the MX471 has more bass than the closed supraaural PX200-II.

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Originally Posted by jant71 View Post
So far so good! I'm sure the MX580 will be real good. Definitely throw them in there as options to think about with the PK2/3.
I hope so! Tomorrow can't come soon enough!

Thanks again for the continuing impressions!
post #87 of 115
A thought; can Senn claim earbud supremacy round these parts? Can they take down Yuin?

I think they can. I only have three pairs of buds right now, the MX471, Gigabeat stock buds, and SmartQ T5-II stock buds. The two stock buds are no slouches. I just lent Joker the SmartQ's which he tried against the PK3. He put them at the same level and did not know which he preferred. My second pair of GB buds are quite good, the first pair sent my PK2 to the FS/FT forum. I like the MX471 better than the SmartQ and as much as the GB. The GB has a bigger soundstage and slightly better SQ but the MX471 may improve a bit more with burn in. Having had the AMP3 Pro 2, I might say that MX471 is better than the PAA-1 earbuds also. Not sure if the MX471 is an equal or lower model to my previous MX65-II. Being a six series and pricier the MX65-II might seem to be slightly higher in the pecking order than the 471. The MX471 looks better, fits better w/o twist-to-fit and the SQ is much better.

The things are:

The SQ is there. It has been consistent across all their new models that I have heard. The Expression Line is yet to be proven if they are that good or
more fancy styling/ materials. Jude does point to their top driver being excellent( same as in the Kleer wireless model). If used in the Expression line OMX980/MX980 they could run with the big Yuins and not need amping.

The 2-year warranty tops Yuin. Even the MX471 has the 2-year warranty.

The build is as good as Yuin and the style/fit is not an after thought.

Choice. Different styles and fit options such as the OMX for over the ear, the sports line, and the xx1 series for smaller ears. There will even be a neckstrap model, the MXL570.

Price and availability. PK2, $79 for the longest time. MX880 dropped from $70 to $60(BH, ZipZoomFly) in the first two weeks. MX580 down from $39 to $29. The MX471 was a deal at $19.99 shipped.

I am looking forward to MX580 impressions. I have no doubt they will be goods ones.

I look forward to Senn putting pressure on Yuin. I know they are a smaller company but even the RE0 is down to $79 now. Their prices should be dropping. The OK2 is $129 for the longest time so I never got one. I'll pick up an MX880 for $60 shipped instead. They might just be pretty damn close in SQ. Would love to see a comparison between those two.
post #88 of 115
The simple fact is that the PK line is more than 3 years-old now, and it does reach its 'old age' as newer and newer earbuds coming to the market. The one thing I am grateful for Yuin is it pushed the earbud market one step further when there was almost no interest among manufacturers to develop better earbud. It used to be a huge gap b/w Yuin and everyone else, but now Yuin is getting caught up real fast. If Yuin doesn't come up with a new model soon, it probably won't be able to hold on to its title of 'king of earbuds' very long.
post #89 of 115
Thread Starter 
Got a chance to finally try out my new MX580s. First impressions are definitely positive. While I'm not quite sure whether I like them better than the MX760, I will say that the MX580 is very articulate, with a bass response that's similar in fullness to the MX760 but at the same time seems to be tighter overall. The midrange is smoother and more transparent, and the treble in particular is a bit more detailed. I still think the MX760 sounds slightly more organic, but these are just out-of-box impressions.

As for usability: the volume control is similar in size to the MX65's or CX250's, but the slider itself has a smaller range but is easier to manipulate. The inclusion of a shirt clip is also a nice touch, while the cord slider is also great, though it makes even more sense on the canalphone models.
post #90 of 115
i hope you will update your first page soon
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