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Bone conduction may be the best argument, so far, for how a custom could outdo a universal with a snug fit. It raises a couple of questions in my mind: First, apart from "custom tips," which Westone seems to have pioneered, why aren't there hard, acrylic, tips of various sizes analogous to all these different foamy and silicone tips? Second, why are the shells of universals being built upon a design platform where drivers are separated from the soundport by narrow, skinny, tubes quite unable to use bone conduction because those tubes are isolated from the sides of the ear canal by the insides of ear tips?

To me, it seems like the gap between universals and customs is worse than arbitrary. It's the sonic equivalent of planned obsolescence. And the solution is to buy thousand-dollar customs? Why isn't it to build a better universal?

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post #47 of 57
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And the solution is to buy thousand-dollar customs? Why isn't it to build a better universal?
If you can come up with a way to get the same benefits of a custom in a universal, I bet you could make a buck or two off that!

I agree that the bone conduction is pretty huge. That's always been the big difference to me. It adds something that nobody has replicated in a universal.

It doesn't seem it can be done with our technology.. Everyone has a different canal, so the material simply cannot be rigid like the hard acrylic.

And yeah, for me the trend is to just spring for the expensive customs.
post #48 of 57
What does seem possible, though, is some way to upgrade the drivers as some type of replaceable "cartridge" within a reusable custom mold. Although I could see build issues creeping up with the moving, interchangeable parts...
post #49 of 57
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So I've been able to try a pair of Super.fi 5pros and they fit me very well. They sound pretty good as well so I'm excited to get the triple.fis. I think I've read somewhere the supers and the triples are the same size, I just want to see if that's true or not.

Thanks

Blair
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The EDGE network sucks read my post below lol.
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post #52 of 57
Nice triple post.

And for the record, I hated the super.fi 5 Pro, but loved the triple.fi 10 Pro for the most part (slightly recessed mids and etchy sound signature not withstanding), so I think you're in for a treat.
post #53 of 57
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If you can come up with a way to get the same benefits of a custom in a universal, I bet you could make a buck or two off that!
Just you wait.
post #54 of 57
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Originally Posted by Bilavideo View Post
Bone conduction may be the best argument, so far, for how a custom could outdo a universal with a snug fit. It raises a couple of questions in my mind: First, apart from "custom tips," which Westone seems to have pioneered, why aren't there hard, acrylic, tips of various sizes analogous to all these different foamy and silicone tips? Second, why are the shells of universals being built upon a design platform where drivers are separated from the soundport by narrow, skinny, tubes quite unable to use bone conduction because those tubes are isolated from the sides of the ear canal by the insides of ear tips?

To me, it seems like the gap between universals and customs is worse than arbitrary. It's the sonic equivalent of planned obsolescence. And the solution is to buy thousand-dollar customs? Why isn't it to build a better universal?

They can't make "Hard Acrylic Tips" because how are you suppose to get them onto the IEM to begin with? All Nozzles have a slight ring that's elevated that keeps the sleeve on, If they were to make the tip of Sleeve of Hard Acrylic, the nozzle would never fit because of the elevated part.

Universals are forced to have much more narrow soundtubes compared to Customs because they have a very limited amount of room. why do i say that? because Customs are desided to your ear, and you have enough room for large soundtube, Dual bore designs because you have all the room of the Diameter of your Ear Canal. However, on a Universal, you have the limited room of 2 mm, because of the Nozzle that can only be so big so tips and sleeves could fit onto them, even with UE's Dual Bore SF5Pro and TF10PRo, the Soundtubes are no where near as wide and large as customs because there just isn't enough room to accommodate for Bone Conduction.
post #55 of 57
I'm selling a pair of the triple.fi 10's. If you want to check out a pair for $200.. shoot me a PM.
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I'm selling a pair of the triple.fi 10's. If you want to check out a pair for $200.. shoot me a PM.
Shouldn't you put this in the FS category...
post #57 of 57

UE4Pro sounds much better like TripleFi10 and they doesn’t have same drivers like TripleFi or SuperFi.

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