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post #2911 of 2919

For curiosity sake, these are a couple old pictures from our first couple meets. It's crazy to see how far we've come since 2010...
 

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2010 May

May 2010

 

2010 November

2011

 

2011 February

2011

 

Beyerdynamic DT1350 in the upper left corner

middle and below is an Audio Technica... I think A700 and W1000?

 

Senn HD25, Beyer DT770 and DT990, Monoprice 8323, M-Audio Q40

 

AKG K271, Sony something (I think??), Pioneer HDJ-2000 (I still have these!)

 

Vintage something, AKG K240 Sextett MP, Fostex T50rp, Bottlehead Crack (might have been the second one I built judging from the colour)

 

Shure SRH-840, everything you've seen already

 

 

 

 

 

post #2912 of 2919

Great pics Nathan, and thanks for organizing and hosting the meet!  It was great to see everyone again!

post #2913 of 2919

Random usb to spdif converter I found on kijiji: http://www.kijiji.ca/v-pro-audio-recording/winnipeg/usb-to-optical-spdif-converter/1240865449?enableSearchNavigationFlag=true

Handy if anyone wants to test dacs without installing drivers or whatnot.

post #2914 of 2919

Thanks for hosting the event! It was everything I hoped it would be and a more!

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Random usb to spdif converter I found on kijiji: http://www.kijiji.ca/v-pro-audio-recording/winnipeg/usb-to-optical-spdif-converter/1240865449?enableSearchNavigationFlag=true

Handy if anyone wants to test dacs without installing drivers or whatnot.

I could see the usefulness of this, but don't most DACs limit the SPDIF input to around 24/192khz? (that said, for 20$ there isn't much room for criticism.)

post #2915 of 2919
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Thanks for hosting the event! It was everything I hoped it would be and a more!

I could see the usefulness of this, but don't most DACs limit the SPDIF input to around 24/192khz? (that said, for 20$ there isn't much room for criticism.)

 

Do you actually have enough music higher than 24/192 that you'd worry about this "limitation"? I consider it a moot point for most people. And nevermind if this is a driverless universal windows device, it probably only does 16/44 or 16/48 anyways depending on the usb chip implementation.

 

Optical originally topped out at 96k, but newer devices can handle 192 as long as your cable is up to proper spec.

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Do you actually have enough music higher than 24/192 that you'd worry about this "limitation"? I consider it a moot point for most people. And nevermind if this is a driverless universal windows device, it probably only does 16/44 or 16/48 anyways depending on the usb chip implementation.

Optical originally topped out at 96k, but newer devices can handle 192 as long as your cable is up to proper spec.

Yep, and I'm even a pretty firm defender of the uselessness of anything above 24/44.1, but I do actually have enough files (above 24/192) that would make it a limitation for me, especially because I currently have a bit of an obsession with DSD.

Your point that it would be a moot point for most people is definitely quite accurate though, especially with the amount of people that use Tidal hifi as their main source (which if I remember correctly is 16/44).
Edited by -iKa- - 2/21/17 at 7:42am
post #2917 of 2919

Fair enough. I'm a bit agnostic when it comes to DSD/MQA or any other hi rez format in general, as almost all were converted and/or remastered from redbook level stuff, so you never really get a sense of what those "true" recordings are like. Even on those rare pieces that were done properly all the way through, they sit in such an isolated vacuum that you don't really have much of a comparison point. I can see good arguments for 24/96 recordings, but anything above that can actually lead to unexpected problems.

 

Were you the one looking for a Loki? You should give @bearFNF a shout. That's going to be the cheapest dac you will ever find that will do DSD "properly".


Edited by Armaegis - 2/21/17 at 9:19am
post #2918 of 2919
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Fair enough. I'm a bit agnostic when it comes to DSD/MQA or any other hi rez format in general, as almost all were converted and/or remastered from redbook level stuff. I can see good arguments for 24/96, but anything above that can actually lead to problems or unnecessary clutter.

Were you the one looking for a Loki? You should give @bearFNF
a shout. That's going to be the cheapest dac you will ever find that will do DSD "properly".

Nope, that was someone else. However, many DACs these days do DSD properly, and a lot of the cheaper ones use the Texas Instruments DSD179X, which as far as I know does DSD entirely natively.
Edited by -iKa- - 2/21/17 at 9:21am
post #2919 of 2919

We're gonna have to define "properly", even those that say they handle it "natively"... Conversion to PCM internally is the most common, particularly because DSD requires a separate and isolated set of filters and associated hardware if you don't want to compromise the pcm side of things nor the output buffers.

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