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Originally Posted by MrEleventy View Post

I got on board the Vali Hype Train... and then got off at the next stop. It didn't wow me and make me want to sell all my other gear. It was so thoroughly hyped that it didn't live up to my expectations. Granted I like the Beyer + Vali pairing more than Beyer + Magni but still, I found it kinda... ordinary and pedestrian. I actually preferred the NFB12's ss amp. :O But that's just me. I probably have brass ears. biggrin.gif

Actually I recently heard the Vali and I have to agree. I found both the Vali and Magni very ordinary and pedestrian as well, especially with Beyers. They both lacked any real character to me, especially the Magni. I like the higher end gear from Schiit though, I just feel the Magni and Vali have been overhyped.


Edited by kman1211 - 6/25/14 at 2:44pm
post #7652 of 10908
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Originally Posted by TrollDragon View Post


Very Nice!
You can tell by the look in his eyes that he is longing for tubes in the chain to bring out the best. biggrin.gif


Yeah, and I'm thinking about doing exactly that. One of the reasons that I went with the Asgard 2 was because it provided the pre-out jacks. Now that the Valhalla 2 has the same, I think I'm going to sell the Asgard 2 and order the Valhalla 2.

 

Don't get me wrong, the Asgard 2 sounds really nice with all my headphones, and especially the DT880's, but I'm really itching to get something with tubes. Anyone interested in an Asgard 2 (new early this year), with original packaging, shoot me a PM. or look for it in the near future in the FS section.

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Originally Posted by Mshenay View Post


IM TELLING YOU GUYZ! The dt 880 600 ohm LOVED the Schiit Vali! I was super amazed at how well it sounded! For $120, I don't think there is an amp that combines the warmth of Tubes with the transparency of a solid state as well as the Vali did :3 

and it was magical on the DT 880
I have a perfectly good working OTL amp that is excellent with the DT880's now.

I would want this microphonic hybrid that has zero tube rolling features why? biggrin.gif
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What about The BH CRACK and DT880?

Still waiting for my CRACK.......:( 

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Originally Posted by TrollDragon View Post


I have a perfectly good working OTL amp that is excellent with the DT880's now.

I would want this microphonic hybrid that has zero tube rolling features why? biggrin.gif


This was the same reason why i went for a Little Dot MK 2 2.0 instead of the vali so I can roll tube's without having to send the unit in, incase something happens. Which was the two main reasons that stopped me from grabbing a vali.

post #7656 of 10908
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Originally Posted by MrEleventy View Post

I got on board the Vali Hype Train... and then got off at the next stop. It didn't wow me and make me want to sell all my other gear. It was so thoroughly hyped that it didn't live up to my expectations. Granted I like the Beyer + Vali pairing more than Beyer + Magni but still, I found it kinda... ordinary and pedestrian. I actually preferred the NFB12's ss amp. :O But that's just me. I probably have brass ears. biggrin.gif

 

 

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Originally Posted by TrollDragon View Post


I have a perfectly good working OTL amp that is excellent with the DT880's now.

I would want this microphonic hybrid that has zero tube rolling features why? biggrin.gif

it's not mircophonic with the  600 ohm cans

 

and as to why, I didn't feel it was at all pedisterian. It had nice subltle cues of the Tube sound, I found it to be more balanced overall and simply betters sounding than all of the previous Solid States and tubes I had at that time!  I didn't feel the hype was to much at all imo

 

ofc I prefered the sound of my balanced Solid State but :3 that's another story

 

And the Vali is a very simple amp to enjoy, well for a solid state loving guy like me I liked the Vali a lot. I'm not a huge Tube Rolling or tube fan for that matter, due to the costs of getting a balanced Tube Amplifier [discussion for another day]

 

that said, I liked the vali. For $120 it sounded better than everything else in that price bracket! [everything else that I had heard] 

post #7657 of 10908
Tubes that are microphonic are a result of the build of the tube. It has nothing to do with headphone impedance, if it's microphonic with 32 Ohm it will be with 600 as well. Your tubes were probably not as bad as the rest.

Microphonic tubes hit the trash here as they are more of an annoyance than anything else, and those rings you put on them to stop microphonics are just for looks.

Quoting Schiit's site...
On Tubes
Just getting into tubes? Be aware of microphonics. Many small tubes, including the ones in Vali, are microphonic. When you plug in headphones, you'll hear a little "tiiinnnnggg...." noise that takes quite a while to go away. If you rap the chassis, it will do the same thing.

So you might want to tell Schiit that the Vali is not microphonic in your opinion... rolleyes.gif
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Originally Posted by TrollDragon View Post

Tubes that are microphonic are a result of the build of the tube. It has nothing to do with headphone impedance, if it's microphonic with 32 Ohm it will be with 600 as well. Your tubes were probably not as bad as the rest.

Microphonic tubes hit the trash here as they are more of an annoyance than anything else, and those rings you put on them to stop microphonics are just for looks.

Quoting Schiit's site...
On Tubes
Just getting into tubes? Be aware of microphonics. Many small tubes, including the ones in Vali, are microphonic. When you plug in headphones, you'll hear a little "tiiinnnnggg...." noise that takes quite a while to go away. If you rap the chassis, it will do the same thing.

So you might want to tell Schiit that the Vali is not microphonic in your opinion... rolleyes.gif

 

thanks for that troll, yea it rang when ever I plugged it in, but I never heard the ringing when I rapped the chassis. I think ohms and sensitivity, headphones with a higher resitance to voltage showed less audible microphonics then my low impedance high sensitity cans, I could rap my chassis with the dt 880 600 ohm and I didn't hear anything, with the W1000x I could hear when I moved my feet on the freaking floor :/ 

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I had a noisy one. bumping the desk would set it off until I popped it open and bent the legs a bit. alleviated a lot of the ringing. direct knocks still set it off but it died down quick. much prefer my darkvoice, I can beat that thing like a drum and not hear a thing. only directly tapping the power tube did I hear anything.
post #7660 of 10908
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Originally Posted by MrEleventy View Post

I had a noisy one. bumping the desk would set it off until I popped it open and bent the legs a bit. alleviated a lot of the ringing. direct knocks still set it off but it died down quick. much prefer my darkvoice, I can beat that thing like a drum and not hear a thing. only directly tapping the power tube did I hear anything.

Granted, for some one who's not a huge fan of teh Tube Sound, I did greatly enjoy the sound of the Vali, I'm sure those of you who enjoy tubes more than I do, find other amps with better background and less mircophonics along with the option to tube roll to be superior to the Vali

 

but for me :D If I had to start from scratch... I'd go with a oDac Vali and DT 880 :3

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If I was starting from scratch it would be the Audio-gd NFB 15(2014) & DT880 @ 250, while saving for the WA6se.
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Originally Posted by TrollDragon View Post

If I was starting from scratch it would be the Audio-gd NFB 15(2014) & DT880 @ 250, while saving for the WA6se.

Hmmm I can't argue with that... I do love my some Audio GD and it costs about the same as an oDac Vali stack would [minus the shipping]

 

hmm I'd love to hear that thing >.> 


Edited by Mshenay - 6/25/14 at 9:23pm
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I heard heard that the asgard wasn't quite up to driving the 600ohm dt-880....is that accurate? I want to buy an amp that's cheaper but has enough voltage swing to drive them easily
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Originally Posted by Syan25 View Post

I heard heard that the asgard wasn't quite up to driving the 600ohm dt-880....is that accurate? I want to buy an amp that's cheaper but has enough voltage swing to drive them easily

i'd be confident in saying the Asgard 2 which replaced the production Asgard unit, should be up to par.

post #7665 of 10908
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Originally Posted by Syan25 View Post

I heard heard that the asgard wasn't quite up to driving the 600ohm dt-880....is that accurate? I want to buy an amp that's cheaper but has enough voltage swing to drive them easily


Here is the best guy to ask...

 

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Originally Posted by jgreen16 View Post
 


Yeah, and I'm thinking about doing exactly that. One of the reasons that I went with the Asgard 2 was because it provided the pre-out jacks. Now that the Valhalla 2 has the same, I think I'm going to sell the Asgard 2 and order the Valhalla 2.

 

Don't get me wrong, the Asgard 2 sounds really nice with all my headphones, and especially the DT880's, but I'm really itching to get something with tubes. Anyone interested in an Asgard 2 (new early this year), with original packaging, shoot me a PM. or look for it in the near future in the FS section.

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