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post #6526 of 8065
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Originally Posted by z7nz View Post

I listen to Rock/Metal. I find the DT880 brighter than other hp I try, but not unbearable. I tried Vmoda-100, HD600, HD650 and end up liking the DT880 & HD600. They're very enjoyable for these genres. very satisfy that I bought this hp.
Except for this 1 pop song though, I had to take the hp off because the treble beat was too much for me the first time I hear it. Try this song with your other hp/iem (play in HD), if you don't find it too bright then I think you're good.
Just listened to it w/ my T90s, which are even brighter. I can spot where the treble would be hot on other chains but on my setup it's nice and shimmery. What's your current chain?

Thx for the link. Haven't heard Boa/not seen Inu Yasha in a while. I wish Spotify would include Japanese music so I can listen to more jpop. Guess I'll scour Youtube. biggrin.gif
post #6527 of 8065
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Originally Posted by Chris J View Post
 

I've done the unthinkable!

I have posted my Beyer DT880/600 Ohm headphones for sale!

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/706009/beyer-dynamic-dt880-600-ohm

 

How much do these typically sell for?

I saw them for sale and I was like o.o

But I bought my first dt880 600 ohm for 175 and my second for 180. But Try 220. They can go at that price as well.

post #6528 of 8065
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Originally Posted by knightboy140 View Post
 

I saw them for sale and I was like o.o

But I bought my first dt880 600 ohm for 175 and my second for 180. But Try 220. They can go at that price as well.

 

Thanks, I'll reset the price.

Chris

post #6529 of 8065
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Originally Posted by r010159 View Post

^^^ That would not be a pretty site. biggrin.gif

I am right now awake at 2 AM needing to get up at 6 AM. I think I have insomnia. But is this true? Maybe I am enjoying myself too much with my DT880s?

I have noticed an improvement in listening pleasure by choosing the right music player on my Mac. Sure, most of the differences between players IMO are imagined by their users, when it just might be a mild difference in EQ processing, for example, boosting some high frequencies to give the illusion of detail and.clarity. But there may be something to this integer mode supported by some players.

I am finding it difficult to believe there are headphones that can sound much better than my simple and affordable setup!

Bob Graham

 

Its true, at least on Windows, that bit-perfect mode (ASIO/WASAPI) is superior and thus players that support those modes will sound slightly better. This is because Windows processes all of the system sounds together into one stream and in doing so it alters the signal. ASIO & WASAPI completely bypass the Windows sound mixer and are therefore able to send your DAC a bit-perfect PCM signal.

 

Supposedly this is not an issue on Mac and the built-in sound mixer is just as good. But I haven't tested that (I don't have any Macs) and I wouldn't be surprised if bit-perfect modes do sound slightly better. Its a subtle difference, on Windows, but it is noticeable for me.

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Thanks for the information. I discussed this with John Seaber at JDS Labs who has been very helpful. He tells me that the Mac OS audio processing component has its well-documented problems. This is particularly true with the recent OS Maverick version. There are clicks and pops and other audio anomalies. I suspect this is jitter. There can be a noticeable improvement in bypassing this processing by the OS, as in the direct mode of the audio player.

 

Also, the chip used in the ODAC supports integer mode. According to the lore on the Internet, the audio data is normally processed and passed to the DAC in floating point numbers. This can introduce rounding errors in the mantissa when converted to integers. Integer mode is supposed to avoid this loss of accuracy.  I find this explanation suspicious. But of course it all comes down to whether the difference can be heard. The Audirvana is one player that supports this feature. I am surprised that I can hear a definite difference in fidelity. But is this because of integer mode, or some snake oil signal processing that is used to make the audio appear more clean?

 

Bob Graham

 

EDIT: Here is a link to a white paper on the subject.

 

ww.amraudio.co.uk/large_image/MAC%20OSX%20audio%20players%20&%20Integer%20Mode.pdf


Edited by r010159 - 2/18/14 at 3:25am
post #6531 of 8065
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Originally Posted by MrEleventy View Post

I bought mine for about 200, regularly see the 600ohms go for about that much as well. glws tho.

E: Don't listen to Shenay, he's just trying to rebuy the 880s again for cheap. tongue.gif

 

 

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Originally Posted by Chris J View Post
 

 

Basically it looks like I have to pull my pants down a bit lower!  :eek:

Sorry to say it guys, but the HE 4 kicks the DT 880 up and down, and all over town... I have no intention of going back to the DT 880 :3

 

I do how ever plan to get a T1... or HE 6 some day [most likely T1 first] so I'll wind up with Beyer again some day :D

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^^^ LOL

post #6533 of 8065
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Originally Posted by Mshenay View Post

 

 

Sorry to say it guys, but the HE 4 kicks the DT 880 up and down, and all over town... I have no intention of going back to the DT 880 :3

 

I do how ever plan to get a T1... or HE 6 some day [most likely T1 first] so I'll wind up with Beyer again some day biggrin.gif

 



Why would you get a T1 if you're no longer interested in the DT880?
I don't really hear why the T1 costs so much more than the DT880.

I would advise going Electrostatic.
post #6534 of 8065
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Originally Posted by Mshenay View Post
 

 

 

Sorry to say it guys, but the HE 4 kicks the DT 880 up and down, and all over town... I have no intention of going back to the DT 880 :3

 

I do how ever plan to get a T1... or HE 6 some day [most likely T1 first] so I'll wind up with Beyer again some day :D

good sir. may i strongly suggest hifiman he 6? it will blow your mind out and, to use your term if I may, kick all the headphones you have up and down, and all over town. :)

BUT...you need that amp!

post #6535 of 8065
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Originally Posted by knightboy140 View Post
 

good sir. may i strongly suggest hifiman he 6? it will blow your mind out and, to use your term if I may, kick all the headphones you have up and down, and all over town. :)

BUT...you need that amp!

Well the NFB 10ES2 has the power to drive the HE 4 wonderfully, and many 6 users do like the NFB10ES2 with the HE 6, although I may wait until I can get an Audio GD Master Series Amp and Dac before I get to the HE 6

 

with regards to the T1, angled drivers are enough to color me interested 

post #6536 of 8065
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Originally Posted by Mshenay View Post
 

Well the NFB 10ES2 has the power to drive the HE 4 wonderfully, and many 6 users do like the NFB10ES2 with the HE 6, although I may wait until I can get an Audio GD Master Series Amp and Dac before I get to the HE 6

 

with regards to the T1, angled drivers are enough to color me interested 

well you know what they say...life isn't complete until you've tried hd800 t1 he6 th900 sr007 sr009 orpheus k1000....you know what i mean ^^

post #6537 of 8065
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Originally Posted by heart banger-97 View Post

Hey guys
I have a question from ones who listen to Rock&Metal (espesially more technical ones) with their dt880.
I'm kinda afraid of the treble in dt880s. For giving a refrence to you, i can not bear ex1000 treble. I want more treble than my w4r and sony z1000. I'm ok with the treble of ie8 and ie80.
I'm not very ok with the treble of er4s ( although I can bear that),
According to what i said, do you think that dt880 would be a great match for me? Or mayb I should go to hd600?

I have strictly been listening to metal with mine. It's been an up and down experience, depending on the quality of the recording. On most recordings they are fantastic, particularly the drums, which are punchy and clear. They also handle fast, technical songs very well. However, on poorly recorded material, or material where the cymbals happen to land on the treble peak, the cymbals can overpower the music. Overall though, I would definitely recommend them. The positives far outweigh the negatives for me so far

post #6538 of 8065
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Originally Posted by Beach123456 View Post
 

I have strictly been listening to metal with mine. It's been an up and down experience, depending on the quality of the recording. On most recordings they are fantastic, particularly the drums, which are punchy and clear. They also handle fast, technical songs very well. However, on poorly recorded material, or material where the cymbals happen to land on the treble peak, the cymbals can overpower the music. Overall though, I would definitely recommend them. The positives far outweigh the negatives for me so far

Oh gawd I loved Metal on the DT 880, the upper mids for me where most epic! 

post #6539 of 8065
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Originally Posted by Mshenay View Post
 

Oh gawd I loved Metal on the DT 880, the upper mids for me where most epic! 

 

Metal is Garbage.

I like Garbage.

I mean the band.

Garbage.

I like Garbage.

I didn't actually mean that Metal is Garbage.

I'm not too sure if Garbage is Metal, though?

You understand?

post #6540 of 8065
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Originally Posted by Chris J View Post
 

 

Metal is Garbage.

I like Garbage.

I mean the band.

Garbage.

I like Garbage.

I didn't actually mean that Metal is Garbage.

I'm not too sure if Garbage is Metal, though?

You understand?

I do, I also think that Primus sucks! So I feel ya! 

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