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post #6421 of 7814
If you want some Hendrix style dirty ass Fuzz off a guitar, then the WaveArts VST will give you that and more in spades...

Or a pair of diodes back to back on the input is a real cheap solution... biggrin.gif
post #6422 of 7814

Ooohhh....one of those "tube emulators".

post #6423 of 7814
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Originally Posted by TrollDragon View Post

I played around a while with both Tube Sound VST modules... Voxengo's "Tube Amp" and the most authentic one on the market WaveArts "Tube Saturator".
http://wavearts.com/products/plugins/tube/

Both modules were unique...

When the Little Dot MK IV arrived on my doorstep the VST's were promptly deleted and never spoke of again. wink.gif

Thanks for the info. I am trying out the Voxengo plugin because it is for free. What does a real tube amp do to the sound of the DT880s? Also, what does the bias control do to the sound?

Bob Graham
post #6424 of 7814

I can't believe how good 880s can sound via OTL tube amp,might have to get the 600omh ver. 


Edited by spacequeen7 - 2/8/14 at 10:49am
post #6425 of 7814
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Originally Posted by spacequeen7 View Post
 

I can't believe how good 880s can sound via OTL tube amp,they sound awesome with good tube combination  


Yeah I heard a pair via a Schiit Valhalla and they sounded tremendous, best I have ever heard that particular phone sound.

post #6426 of 7814
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Originally Posted by r010159 View Post

Thanks for the info. I am trying out the Voxengo plugin because it is for free. What does a real tube amp do to the sound of the DT880s? Also, what does the bias control do to the sound?

Bob Graham
The difference to me with solid state vs tubes is I find they solid state is like a high resolution picture. Every minute detail can be obverved and examined, with tubes it is like someone had taken the same picture and threw a nice Gaussian blur on it. All the details are still there but they have a smooth flow to them with no hard edges. You can't get up close and examine, just take a few steps back and thoroughly enjoy picture as a whole.

This is how I find the tubes with the DT880's, the harmonics add that liquid smoothness that is so enjoyable.

The bias control simulates the amount of drive the tube has, more bias more drive up to the point of distortion.
post #6427 of 7814

Personally, in my opinion, YMMV, but I find that with SS the DT880s sound a bit too dry for my taste.

 

Tubes fill out and warm up the midrange........in my opinion.

Sorry, I can't think of anymore qualifiers!

post #6428 of 7814
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Originally Posted by Chris J View Post
 

Personally, in my opinion, YMMV, but I find that with SS the DT880s sound a bit too dry for my taste.

 

Tubes fill out and warm up the midrange........in my opinion.

Sorry, I can't think of anymore qualifiers!


True, I find tubes to them to warm the sound, add more body, texture, and depth to the entire sound. Just sounds more natural and real.

post #6429 of 7814
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Originally Posted by TrollDragon View Post


The difference to me with solid state vs tubes is I find they solid state is like a high resolution picture. Every minute detail can be obverved and examined, with tubes it is like someone had taken the same picture and threw a nice Gaussian blur on it. All the details are still there but they have a smooth flow to them with no hard edges. You can't get up close and examine, just take a few steps back and thoroughly enjoy picture as a whole.

This is how I find the tubes with the DT880's, the harmonics add that liquid smoothness that is so enjoyable.

The bias control simulates the amount of drive the tube has, more bias more drive up to the point of distortion.

you haven't roll much tubes ....right tubes (combination) can make semi-decent tube amp sound like top-tier amp and will change the overall headphones sound to some degree 


Edited by spacequeen7 - 2/8/14 at 11:33am
post #6430 of 7814
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Originally Posted by spacequeen7 View Post

you haven't roll much tubes ....right tubes (combination) can make semi-decent tube amp sound like top-tier amp
Yeah I'll have to roll some tubes one of these days... I just don't put much value in rolling $250+ tubes in a $300 amp when there are so many other factors involved board side...
post #6431 of 7814
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Yeah I'll have to roll some tubes one of these days... I just don't put much value in rolling $250+ tubes in a $300 amp when there are so many other factors involved board side...

this one tube on the left-1944 ( $10 shipped) made my 880s sound crazy good 

post #6432 of 7814
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Originally Posted by r010159 View Post

Thanks for the info. I am trying out the Voxengo plugin because it is for free. What does a real tube amp do to the sound of the DT880s? Also, what does the bias control do to the sound?

Bob Graham

The characteristics that I seek in tube amps are transparency (air & space around instruments) and texture (touch & timbre).

But like all components, they vary widely, by design (transformer coupled, otl, hybrid), and by manufacturer. So there isn't a "tube amp sound" per se.

And there are marvelous solid state amps (despite my bumpersticker).biggrin.gif

In the world of head-fi we are fortunate to be able to experiment around for far less $$$ than it costs to do so with speaker amps.
post #6433 of 7814
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Originally Posted by TrollDragon View Post

Yeah I'll have to roll some tubes one of these days... I just don't put much value in rolling $250+ tubes in a $300 amp when there are so many other factors involved board side...

I've rolled in several tubes into my La Figaro 336C.
I paid between $20-50 per tube.
But I do agree with you, bro.
I ain't sticking $250 tubes into a $300 amp! eek.gif that's just insane!
post #6434 of 7814
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Originally Posted by spacequeen7 View Post
 

this one tube on the left-1944 ( $10 shipped) made my 880s sound crazy good 

When I pick up an amp that can fully utilize the 6SC/U/L/N7's then I'll probably look for some...

 

If I can find a reasonable pair of C3g/s, C3g or C3m's it will be endgame for the MK IV.

But right now the 6Н23П from '78 works great and sounds divine.

post #6435 of 7814
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Originally Posted by Chris J View Post
 

Someday they will all join the Dark Side!

 

Or the "B" side... :eek:

 

Some of us just run dual mono amps that share a common ground... :tongue_smile:

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