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post #5806 of 10436

The DT880 Pro sounding really good out of this "new to me" Audio-GD! I can only imagine what they sound like balanced. Unfortunately I have too many HPs and they're still on the selling block. So many headphones, only two ears!!

post #5807 of 10436
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Originally Posted by wahsmoh View Post
 

 

I honestly think the Vali is a great solution for people in need of a semi-portable tube amp. I'm not really a tube kind of guy as I prefer the sound of a solid-state but I've heard some fine tube amp rigs. Also, whoever said the Vali is the best amp under $1600 needs to get his ears checked. I felt that my Asgard 2 delivers a lot more weight in the bass and power that the Vali simply cannot keep up. I could see the Vali being a good amp to pair with a darker sounding headphone because it is very clean sounding but I thought it felt somewhat sterile... again this is just my impression listening to the Vali with the Alpha Dogs and my own DT880 with Dan from Mr. Speakers at the San Diego meet in November. I really need to do an extensive A/B testing to see if my subjective impressions are indeed correct.

The Vali is in intro tube. For $120, I'm doubtful you'll find something that will sound as nice right out the box. WIthout needing, any rolling or any modding

 

My indeed G3 was a very fun experince, but a frustrating one. I remember spending like an hour once adjusting that stupid bias... the Millet Hybrid I got later was a little more user friendly but the RCA jacks where crummy and the tube Sockets where a little loose, so it still made noise.

 

The Vali which costs about the same as the other two did [and those two wher used when I got them] Sounds better right out the box, and has 0 fuss [aside form the noise if you using sensitive headphones] 

 

My point is, for the DT 880 it is a very nice compliment for an VERY nice price, It's hard to make comparisions seeing as I'm running from my hm801 line out into the vali, but I remember being WOW'd the first day I listened to my Hm601 LINE out Indeed G3, 

 

The G3 stock tubes where pretty smooth, as is the hm 601... not sure how I enjoyed the two honestly, but the hm801 Vali combo with the 880 is great, all the details are retained in the song, and... there is not so much a smoothness as much as there is a wetness... a intimite and slighty rich sound

 

For any one just getting into this hobby, the Vali is a great option for first tube. It is How ever, not as "Fun"as tubes like teh BRavo or Indeed. By Fun I mean there is no tinkering needed or tube rolling 

 

but.... dis Schiit built to LAST meng! Unlike the other 2 mentioned >.>

post #5808 of 10436
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Originally Posted by Soundsgoodtome View Post
 

The DT880 Pro sounding really good out of this "new to me" Audio-GD! I can only imagine what they sound like balanced. Unfortunately I have too many HPs and they're still on the selling block. So many headphones, only two ears!!

So let's just forget the balanced vs SE thing atm

 

FOR AUDIO GD AMPS, the Balanced out sounds better than the SE, that's due to the amps designed. It was designed to run balanced, so the amp sounds the cleanest and most tactile balanced out. Now that said, seeing as you have an AUdio GD amp it may be best to go ahead and shoot over to Brian at BTG audio and see if he can do you a recable for around $130 ish [balanced recable] or just a retermination for like $50 or so

 

OR you can try to DIY it :3, either way plz do use your Audio GD amp balanced. 

 

Now there is a chance that another SE Amp may have just as nice a sound as the balanced Audio GD... 

 

Also one of the biggest reasons I went balanced, was because I was TIRED of ppl argueing over how powerful an amp you needed for 600 ohm or an Ortho... so I said screw it let's just go balanced and not worry about "under powering" anything ever again. That and when I found a Balanced dt 880 600 ohm for $235 [which is the price for a new Pro] that kinda forced me to switch into balanced to.

 

Any how gad ur likeing ur Audio GD amp, is yours an NFB 10es3 btw?

post #5809 of 10436
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Been waiting for your impressions on the Vali.....I ordered last week and them backed off and cancelled, thinking my current tube amp with some damn good Mullard NOS tubes couldn't be beat.  So, have you experienced tube amps in the past to compare?  What is the best tube amp you have heard with the DT880 600ohm.

 

In other words c'mon make me buy the Vali.....someone said it is better than any amp under $1600!

 

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I tube rolled with my amp for two years......lots of good tubes, some of the best available NOS 12AX7's., Brimar, etc....some better than others, but I was dependent on genre and/or headphone.  Found an Audiophile on Audiogon a couple of years ago that advised the NOS Mullard CV2975 power tubes and NOS Mullard CV4035 (to replace the 12AX7's) were so good, that I would never want to tube roll again.  He was so right, I purchased them while still available from Tubemonger.  Like them so much I purchased a second set....paid $200 each for matched pair off NOS CV 4035's, and $100 each for the NOS CV2975's.  Sold all of the other tubes that I rolled, still strong as new, to Brent Jesse....I recouped enough to fund the purchase the Mullard's.  Since I had everything I needed upstream, got the HD580's. DT880 600 ohm, T90 (gone in trade for HD700), the DT990 600 ohm better that the T90. Right now I'm lovin the DT990's with my ALO wires, 8 wire cable, beautiful mids brought forward.  I have some 8 wire detachable custom cables that are bringing a lot of love too.  Cables are my last frontier at the moment, really love my Beyer's, and if I find T90's cheap I will have them again!

 

There..........I just talked myself out of the Vali......LOL!

I honestly think the Vali is a great solution for people in need of a semi-portable tube amp. I'm not really a tube kind of guy as I prefer the sound of a solid-state but I've heard some fine tube amp rigs. Also, whoever said the Vali is the best amp under $1600 needs to get his ears checked. I felt that my Asgard 2 delivers a lot more weight in the bass and power that the Vali simply cannot keep up. I could see the Vali being a good amp to pair with a darker sounding headphone because it is very clean sounding but I thought it felt somewhat sterile... again this is just my impression listening to the Vali with the Alpha Dogs and my own DT880 with Dan from Mr. Speakers at the San Diego meet in November. I really need to do an extensive A/B testing to see if my subjective impressions are indeed correct.

 

I've read reviews on the Schitt amps, don't know who the review was, but he like the Asgard 2 amp very much, better than the Lyr and Vallhalla, in fact.  If I was to try a Schitt amp, I think I would go for the Asgard 2 as well, looks like a nice amp.  But, right now am committed to my current setup.  In the future I am going to build a Bottlehead Crack, just to see what it's all about, and if it can benefit my high impedence headphones.  Output impedence on my tube amp is 8 ohms, and I do have a couple of budget cans with 65 ohms and below, that would probably sound better with a different amp.....but they are just for fun.  Having better results with my cable ventures, rolling detachable cables, with all of my headphones!

post #5810 of 10436

So I remember someone bringing up the dt235s. Are they really that good? I want to get my cousin a present for christmas...He's a high school frosh. I want to give him my udac2 + a nice new headphone to introduce him to the world of head-fi. 

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So I remember someone bringing up the dt235s. Are they really that good? I want to get my cousin a present for christmas...He's a high school frosh. I want to give him my udac2 + a nice new headphone to introduce him to the world of head-fi. 

 

Its great for the price. You can usually get them through Amazon Warehouse Deals like-new for about $45. The only issue is comfort because they are on-ear headphones but if he isn't listening for more than 1 or 2 hours at a time it probably won't be an issue. I think they're a great a choice in that price range.

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So I remember someone bringing up the dt235s. Are they really that good? I want to get my cousin a present for christmas...He's a high school frosh. I want to give him my udac2 + a nice new headphone to introduce him to the world of head-fi. 
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I had them but returned them. The cheap housing, and although the driver was decent, just really didn't fit together for me sonically. For around that price range, I think there are better contenders. The DT501P for example is only $60, those are probably worth the $20 price bump.
post #5813 of 10436
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I had them but returned them. The cheap housing, and although the driver was decent, just really didn't fit together for me sonically. For around that price range, I think there are better contenders. The DT501P for example is only $60, those are probably worth the $20 price bump.

 

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Its great for the price. You can usually get them through Amazon Warehouse Deals like-new for about $45. The only issue is comfort because they are on-ear headphones but if he isn't listening for more than 1 or 2 hours at a time it probably won't be an issue. I think they're a great a choice in that price range.

Thank you guys for the input :D

My cousin apparently only likes in earz and he listens to everything so I'm thinking re400...

Well my uncle thinks that bose is the best thing that ever happened to the world of headphones....I SHALL CHANGE THAT THIS CHRISTMAS.

 

I really wanna haul my setup over....Any suggestions?...I rly don't want my dt880 babies and my kkmaster to be all banged up...

post #5814 of 10436

I'm not sure what your question is. You're going to gift a setup or you're bringing it for the holidays to showcase? The RE400 is a fine IEM for the price but it really depends on what he listens. Although it's a good all-arounder, it's a warm sound so if he's into energetic music he might not be into it (as much). However if he's comparing them to Bose and Beats, (more so on beats or similar) well RE400 will be just fine lol.

post #5815 of 10436
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Originally Posted by Soundsgoodtome View Post
 

I'm not sure what your question is. You're going to gift a setup or you're bringing it for the holidays to showcase? The RE400 is a fine IEM for the price but it really depends on what he listens. Although it's a good all-arounder, it's a warm sound so if he's into energetic music he might not be into it (as much). However if he's comparing them to Bose and Beats, (more so on beats or similar) well RE400 will be just fine lol.

actually more on advice about how to haul my stuff across the country lol.In your experience should it be in the suitcase or in a carry on bag?

post #5816 of 10436
Ship it? If it's expensive electronics, there's a small chance security can open your check in luggage and take electronics apart. If you carry on you might need to turn it on and show it working.
post #5817 of 10436
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Originally Posted by Soundsgoodtome View Post

Ship it? If it's expensive electronics, there's a small chance security can open your check in luggage and take electronics apart. If you carry on you might need to turn it on and show it working.

or don't even fly... grab some buddies and go on a ROAD TRIP... I've had Airlines MELT my luggage before...

post #5818 of 10436
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or don't even fly... grab some buddies and go on a ROAD TRIP... I've had Airlines MELT my luggage before...

 

Ouch! My family has had some less than stellar experiences (long ago, at least--it's been over a decade since I've been on a plane), but never quite that bad. Stuff inside was broken because the luggage had clearly been tossed/jostled around in transit.

 

How on earth do you reckon they managed to melt your luggage?

post #5819 of 10436
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Ouch! My family has had some less than stellar experiences (long ago, at least--it's been over a decade since I've been on a plane), but never quite that bad. Stuff inside was broken because the luggage had clearly been tossed/jostled around in transit.

 

How on earth do you reckon they managed to melt your luggage?

I have no idea, but I had a bag full of clothing and plastic toys [at the time I as 11 and Legos are never out of style] but well my bag was chared on the outside and my Leog's had melted onto my clothing... how I have no clue either way I highly doubt a AIr line is going to pay me the money for my Audio gear... knowing how cheap they where with paying for the Lego's they ruined I HIGHLY doubt they will pay the value of any of my gear... 

post #5820 of 10436

They might if you could present receipts. Of course, that would only work if you bought new (or used from a shop or online retailer).

 

The reason I ask is because our family business ships out orders at least three times a week. We use the cargo terminals at our local airport (UPS and FedEx would be way too expensive for what we send), and cargo goes in the same place on the planes as passenger baggage. The only thing I can think of that might have caused something like you describe is if there were some kind of heating element in the cargo area that malfunctioned and went nuts, and your bag was right next to it. I hate to think of something like that happening to our freight. Instead of aquarium fish, our customers would be getting fish soup!


Edited by Argyris - 12/14/13 at 5:34am
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