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post #5491 of 10426
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Originally Posted by Chris J View Post


The 32 Ohm version I saw and all the posts I've seen on Head Fi that back my claim up.
Maybe the Pro doesn't.

I've never seen every single DT880 out there so.........................

 

Even a 250 ohms mark ? I think that 250 ohms is the standard impedance => so this one is not rated on the jack plug .

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My 250 ohm DT880 was purchased in late 2010, and it doesn't have any impedance marking on the plug. I know that 600 ohm versions from around that period did have the marking. The 32 ohm DT880 has the blue ring around the outside of the cup, just like the 32 ohm DT770 and DT990, so it doesn't, strictly speaking, need the marking, unless you're trying to differentiate it from a Manufaktur-designed 250 ohm set in which the only change the customer did was to make that ring the same color blue as the 32 ohm Premium DT series. And how many times is that situation ever going to come up?

 

That all said, they could have started marking all of them after that date and I wouldn't know, since I've only ever seen my own pair in person.

post #5493 of 10426

I don't have a number on my cable either... :(

:dt880smile: :tongue_smile: :dt880smile:

 

The original has no mark either as I have the 250Ω version.


Edited by TrollDragon - 11/28/13 at 1:07pm
post #5494 of 10426
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Originally Posted by moriez View Post
 

Greedily grabbed that old 880! Will be content if it's anything like the newer 880 600Ω.

Interested to hear your impressions. I've heard both ways that the 880 600 is better and vice versa for the latter so I think its some mumbo jumbo or unit to unit variation.

 

Ya, it's being mailed to me so next week I'll be knowing a bit more.

post #5495 of 10426
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Originally Posted by Chris J View Post


They will drive the 32 Ohm version.

 

Will the Audioquest Dragonfly itself or a combo of the Dragonfly and e11 drive the 250 ohm version okay?

post #5496 of 10426
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Originally Posted by alterndog View Post
 

 

Will the Audioquest Dragonfly itself or a combo of the Dragonfly and e11 drive the 250 ohm version okay?

 

yes it will get very loud , and not bad at all .

post #5497 of 10426
Depends on the source used as the E11 barely drives my Pro's, I have to have the volume at 80-90% for a great listening level when driven from my Colorfly C3. If you have a track with poor levels then there is no extra left in the volume control.

I would seek out a different amp like the E12 or a C&C BH.
post #5498 of 10426
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Originally Posted by Chris J View Post
 
FWIW,
I've tried my 600 Ohm version next to a 32 Ohm version, almost impossible to tell them apart, the 32 Ohm version MAY have had slightly coarser treble, but that was it.

 

Interesting that people who've compared the different versions mostly say this, but still posts appear all over the place saying, "I've heard the 600ohm version has a much smoother treble and a more refined sound." It's like that old myth about all integrated amps and receivers having 5c op amps in their headphone outputs, when in fact most take a line from the speaker outs through resistors. How do you disentrench an entrenched idea? Every time I read a post begining with "I've read that...." I grit my teeth.

post #5499 of 10426
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Originally Posted by pp312 View Post

 

Interesting that people who've compared the different versions mostly say this, but still posts appear all over the place saying, "I've heard the 600ohm version has a much smoother treble and a more refined sound." It's like that old myth about all integrated amps and receivers having 5c op amps in their headphone outputs, when in fact most take a line from the speaker outs through resistors. How do you disentrench an entrenched idea? Every time I read a post begining with "I've read that...." I grit my teeth.

 

Yeah its interesting. And frustrating. Because no matter how many of us say the opposite, newcomers constantly come in with that impression that the 600 ohm is obviously superior. It is not. Why would it be? If you're using a high output impedance amp, sure, but otherwise its no different. You're more likely to hear standard driver variance between the different ohm versions than any difference based on impedance. My guess is that people assume it is the best version because A: 600 is a higher number than 32 and 250, and B: it costs more.

post #5500 of 10426
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Originally Posted by JeremyR View Post
 

Just an FYI: Amazon is having a Black Friday sale on these starting in 11 hours 15 minutes from now. They are the 600 ohm ones, and are marked at $300 now (so will come off that price). We won't know what the price is until the sale starts.

 

Interesting. I've been trying to figure out which version of the DT 880 it would be. How do you know it will be the 600 ohm?

post #5501 of 10426

I went for the 600 because of Tyll's impressions (and since I got them used there was no real price premium for me, and I already owned a capable amp) http://www.innerfidelity.com/content/comparison-beyerdynamic-dt-880-32-ohm-dt-880-250-ohm-and-dt-880-600-ohm-headphones

 

Also, Goldenears' measurements quite clearly show that the 600 has a bit less treble.

http://en.goldenears.net/11302

 

Headphone.com's measurements show a tad more bass and a bit less overall treble on the 600

 

I'd love to have the opportunity to do an A to B comparison, but since I don't have the other models at my disposal, I can only go off the measurements which show that there is indeed a difference. However, I don't doubt that it's overstated by many people (just the way so many things are here). I wouldn't be surprised if the difference was small enough some people might not hear it.

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What about the dip at the 4k hz with the 600 ohm ?

 

I recently deliberated between both and went with the 250 ohm instead as I want to be able to use it with my portable dac/amp and home setup. While graphs are useful, I've also heard people say there's no difference between the 250 vs 600. Even if there is a marginal treble smoothness with the 600 the 250 seems to be a bit more versatile for my uses.

post #5503 of 10426
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Originally Posted by TrollDragon View Post
 

I don't have a number on my cable either... :(

:dt880smile: :tongue_smile: :dt880smile:

 

The original has no mark either as I have the 250Ω version.

 

Schmuck!

 

OK, Uncle, I stand corrected folks.

"I read somewhere that they all had a marking on the plug".

(with apologies to pp312!)   :wink_face: 

post #5504 of 10426

Upcoming lightning deal for the DT880 on Amazon. Not sure if it will be a good deal or not, but something worth checking out. The deal begins at 8:50 PM EST

post #5505 of 10426
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Originally Posted by moriez View Post
 

Will be content if it's anything like the newer 880 600Ω.

 

Just for reference and from a newb to other newbs: what I'm quoting might easily be interpreted as that the 600Ω is the one to get. Not neccessarily so. I've only heard the 600Ω with an OTL amp which was a good match. 250 and lower might just be as nice. As always, there's nothing like trying headphones yourself.

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